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Why We Are Here => Water Cooler => Topic started by: rcjordan on February 25, 2016, 08:57:03 PM

Title: Nope. Nope. Nope.
Post by: rcjordan on February 25, 2016, 08:57:03 PM
https://www.jukinmedia.com/videos/view/927649-1
Title: Re: Nope. Nope. Nope.
Post by: DrCool on February 26, 2016, 02:28:43 AM
Don't worry. Nonvenomous. But still... nope
Title: Re: Nope. Nope. Nope.
Post by: rcjordan on February 26, 2016, 02:44:00 AM
>Nonvenomous. But still... nope

Yeah, I looked it up. Never heard of a Diamondback water snake.

>nope

We have 2 or 3 black snakes or brown garden snakes around here in the warm weather. They're chasing frogs & birds. I catch them when I can and take them across the street to my vacant lot and release.  Though I can identify a black snake, I just can't bring myself to just scoop it up behind the neck. I have to pin it down first.
Title: Re: Nope. Nope. Nope.
Post by: DrCool on February 26, 2016, 03:02:42 AM
I am still waiting to see my first real snake down here. Seen a few small ones but I want to see a big one that scares the crap out of me. Just once.
Title: Re: Nope. Nope. Nope.
Post by: littleman on February 26, 2016, 03:08:55 AM
My wife is terribly afraid of snakes.  When we first started dating,* her mother would put rubber snakes around her house to freak her out.  I wouldn't do this today, but back then it made me a little mad so I took one of them and put it in a hanging pot above the stove.  My wife's mom isn't very tall, she had to reach up to pull the pot down.  She grabs it and without looking caries it to the sink and starts to fill it with water.  This was a few days after I put the snake in there.  All of a sudden I hear a scream, then a metallic bang and slashing of water as the pot falls in the sink.  I had such mixed feelings about that.

*fixed the egregious error
Title: Re: Nope. Nope. Nope.
Post by: Torben on February 26, 2016, 08:04:30 AM
I’m not a gramanazi, but littleman you just made laugh so much I almost pissed my pants. Sometimes a missing comma gives a sentence a whole new meening:

When we first started dating her mother …
When we first started dating, her mother …

I know we have cultural differences but… LMFAO
Title: Re: Nope. Nope. Nope.
Post by: Brad on February 26, 2016, 12:44:15 PM
Ditto on nope.  I hate snakes.

I was in a restaurant here many years ago and a little nonvenomous garden snake came in the back fire door which was open on a nice day and started slithering down the isle.  The diners where freaking.  The owner came out and like lightning captured the snake just  behind the head with chopsticks and took it outside to release.  Everyone applauded.
Title: Re: Nope. Nope. Nope.
Post by: JasonD on February 26, 2016, 01:15:51 PM
We have a few reptiles in the UK and only one of them is venomous, the Adder. They're actually quite rare but I have seen one occasionally here.

What we have in abundance here (Not in the whole UK though) are slow worms, which are legless lizards. They're extremely cute little creatures :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anguis_fragilis
Title: Re: Nope. Nope. Nope.
Post by: littleman on February 26, 2016, 02:28:45 PM

I know we have cultural differences but… LMFAO


Unintended humor is usually the best kind.
Title: Re: Nope. Nope. Nope.
Post by: DrCool on February 26, 2016, 02:55:34 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anguis_fragilis

I love this line in there: "One of the biggest causes of mortality in slow worms in suburban areas is the domestic cat, against which it has no defence.".
Title: Re: Nope. Nope. Nope.
Post by: JasonD on February 26, 2016, 02:57:28 PM
It's true, they love playing with them and my old  (now dead) dog wasn't a fan of them either.
Title: Re: Nope. Nope. Nope.
Post by: rcjordan on February 26, 2016, 03:56:20 PM
I read a line somewhere a few years ago that has stuck with me:

"Cats and Humans are the only species that kill for pleasure."

I really haven't come up with any other species to disprove that.
Title: Re: Nope. Nope. Nope.
Post by: JasonD on February 26, 2016, 03:58:15 PM
I'll add ex wives to the list, as they generally (at least in my experience) don't fall into either of those 2 groups.
Title: Re: Nope. Nope. Nope.
Post by: JasonD on February 26, 2016, 03:59:54 PM
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/cats_actually_kill

:)
Title: Re: Nope. Nope. Nope.
Post by: littleman on February 26, 2016, 04:25:58 PM
>"Cats and Humans are the only species that kill for pleasure."

Killer whales do as well.
Title: Re: Nope. Nope. Nope.
Post by: ergophobe on February 26, 2016, 05:31:20 PM
I've seen a dog kill a cat just for the fun of the chase and then drop it as soon as it was dead.

Domestic animals are generally bred to still love the chase, but not the kill (rat dogs and a few others excepted). That's the essence of what it means to be hound or a retriever.

Mixed feeling about the snake.

As a naturalist, I find it awesome that you can teach a snake.
As a naturalist, I find it awful that you would feed a snake.
As someone who had a deep childhood fear of snakes, NOPE.


>>http://theoatmeal.com/comics/cats_actually_kill

Actually, this is something that really bothers me. Cats are second only to habitat destruction as drivers of songbird collapse. For birders who have been tracking songbirds for many years, this is a crisis and we will reach a point where we will walkl through the forests and wonder where the music went.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/30/science/that-cuddly-kitty-of-yours-is-a-killer.html?_r=0
http://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2013/02/03/170851048/do-we-really-know-that-cats-kill-by-the-billions-not-so-fast

Although it turns out that lately, a major new driver of songbird collapse is the Chinese food market
http://www.birdwatchingdaily.com/blog/2015/06/08/eurasian-songbirds-decline-mirrors-passenger-pigeons-collapse/
Title: Re: Nope. Nope. Nope.
Post by: littleman on February 26, 2016, 05:39:21 PM
I actually like snakes.  I would definitely have a small one (like a garter snake) as a pet if my wife didn't have her phobia.
Title: Re: Nope. Nope. Nope.
Post by: Rupert on February 27, 2016, 06:54:42 AM
I always wanted a pet snake, but mum would not let me have one. I would hate to meet a big one now.
Torben, thanks for pointing that out :)  Littleman... WOW!  hahaha...

We have a killer cat. Always had a cat. This one brings in mice, birds, rabbits (and once a rat) to the house, and plays with them. She is the worst cat we have ever had, only small, but will take on anything it seems. (except my sisters retriever).

But we do have a garden FULL of birds. I counted 26 around the feeders last week. And its winter, we get more in the summer. Next door has 4 cats, and there are others on the lane. We are in the country, but we see families of long tailed t##s, greenfinches, and gold finches that visit, and its actually a rare day she brings in a bird.  Is usually a mouse.

What I am trying to say is from my little corner, I hear the RSPB talking about the dangers of cats to the songbirds, but I do not see it.  Perhaps it is different in urban society.