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Public DNA database catches Golden State Killer
« on: April 29, 2018, 11:42:16 PM »
Police uploaded a DNA sample to a database that people upload their DNA to in order to find long lost relatives. Enough of the Golden State Killer's relatives had uploaded DNA that they were able to find him, or at least a very strong suspect.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/27/health/dna-privacy-golden-state-killer-genealogy.html

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Re: Public DNA database catches Golden State Killer
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2018, 12:55:05 AM »
Wow

"The arrest of a suspect has set off alarms among
some scientists and ethicists worried that consumer
DNA may be widely accessed by law enforcement."

Indeed, amazing idea and the consequences do seem fairly major there.

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Re: Public DNA database catches Golden State Killer
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2018, 06:28:36 AM »
This news broke a day after I posted about how my dad discovered a bunch of family in NC via DNA.  This news is going to have a real impact on this type of activity.   The GSK  was matched up indirectly by the DNA of  a relative -- think about that for a bit.

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Re: Public DNA database catches Golden State Killer
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2018, 10:59:02 AM »
Sounds like it could be construed as an illegal search.
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Re: Public DNA database catches Golden State Killer
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2018, 03:16:58 PM »
They first got a match using a public "open source" DNA repository, then they were issued a warrant and grabbed something from his trash to confirm.  As unsettling as it may be, I don't think they broke any laws.
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Re: Public DNA database catches Golden State Killer
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2018, 05:56:47 PM »
>As unsettling as it may be, I don't think they broke any laws.

Yeah, that's what's bothering me.  We've created the Gattaca Police State without even trying.

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Re: Public DNA database catches Golden State Killer
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2018, 07:07:09 PM »
Ditto. That's what prompted me to share. Add in all the stuff RC has been posting about facial recognition and voice recognition and it's Gattaca Plus

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Re: Public DNA database catches Golden State Killer
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2019, 09:21:00 PM »
There has been a small stream of these "family tree" arrests.  Another one:

Raymond Rowe Charged With 1992 Murder of Pennsylvania Teacher Christy Mirack Thanks to Genetic Genealogy DNA Technique

http://www.newser.com/story/269688/how-dj-was-busted-in-old-cold-case-gum-a-water-bottle.html

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Re: Public DNA database catches Golden State Killer
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2019, 03:59:26 PM »
This tech is going mainstream.

Her murder went unsolved for nearly 40 years, until DNA pointed to a serial rapist named 'Animal' | Stuff.co.nz
https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/110374062/her-murder-went-unsolved-for-nearly-40-years-until-dna-pointed-to-a-serial-rapist-named-animal

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Re: Public DNA database catches Golden State Killer
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2019, 04:47:20 PM »
A bit like being a 'friend of a friend' on FB, and the insidious correlations FB do.

Only it's for people in your family tree and the correlation is pretty much inescapable.

Once there's a FB sized database of genomes, criminals will be needing to wear a lot more than gloves.

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Re: Public DNA database catches Golden State Killer
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2019, 05:01:42 PM »
It's disheartening that we're living in two 20-yr-old movies now:  "Gattaca" & "Enemy of the State."

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Re: Public DNA database catches Golden State Killer
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2019, 05:26:06 PM »
Enemy of the State

Haven't seen that one. Is it now essential watching to understand my current world? Is it a good movie?

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Re: Public DNA database catches Golden State Killer
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2019, 05:37:46 PM »
It's essential, but you'll be seeing now routine surveillance.  Just try to remember that it was sci-fi at the time.

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Re: Public DNA database catches Golden State Killer
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2019, 07:18:13 PM »
What bothers me most is that the rise of this type of technology is coinciding with governments moving away from democratic rule.