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Why We Are Here => Water Cooler => Topic started by: rcjordan on March 12, 2014, 09:47:37 PM
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You're going to need one of these:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0055FSN0Y/
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I can do that.
How hard or easy is this thing to clean?
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NICE
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How hard or easy is this thing to clean?
Most rice makers are very easy to clean. My Chinese-American mother-in-law makes me cook the rice because she has literally never in her life made rice without a ricemaker. They are that central to modern Asian culture. She does insist on one with steel innards instead of aluminum. In this case "Nonstick inner cooking pot removes for quick cleanup in the dishwasher"
The amazing thing about that page is that it has a feature I've never seen on Amazon - comparison shopping built right in (scroll down to the "Compare to Similar Rice Cookers" rubric)
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>clean
Extremely easy. It has some of the slickest teflon I've ever felt ...almost feels oily to the touch.
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I ain't cooking rice. How about blue cheese meatloaf?
Also, other cookers will probably work but I've only used this one. And, this one is gasketed, so it's really a vented, ultra-low psi pressure cooker (with a searing capability).
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Rice cookers are great for DIY sous-vide frolics...
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I should add that up until 4 or 5 years ago, I had never cooked except grilling --which I dislike. Too much tending.
>clean
I forgot to mention that there is a thin, aluminum, teflon-coated pot as a liner which easily lifts out to wash. BUT, since my system does not require attendance/attention and can be addressed whenever it's convenient, I tend to cook in batches and not wash the pot in between.
>sous vide
It was discovering sous vide in my quest for home-cooked RARE beef that originally got me into cooking. I did sous vide for about 4 years, cooking almost all meals except breakfast. It was sous vide that showed me that cooking could be done almost incidentally --without having to worry about cooking times. You can literally leave a rare beef roast in the water for 3 days and its still rare whenever you decide to take it out.
Sous vide was an important phase in my trek toward a Jetson's meal system. It showed me that we could [1] eliminate cleanup of pots & pans, and that meals could be [2] cooked without regard to length of cooking time. Those 2 factors go a LONG way in getting to hassle-free eating. The third step was the evolution of what I call "Mad-Scientist Cooking" --zero recipes.
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>ain't cooking rice
Thank you.
>Mad Scientist Cooking
Oh good, the rabbit hole.
Its sounding better all the time. I've got one of these ordered. I'm wondering how much different this is from a slow cooker?
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RC's sous vide cooking is AWESOME! Tried it myself and for my kids and they LOVED it.
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>wondering how much different this is from a slow cooker?
Massively, massively different. I'll cover the "firing sequence" later, maybe.
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How I think was profoundly shaped by growing up in a household with 6 boys. But I've come to realize that the family business being a wholesale supply house with the need to handle inventory efficiently may have had a larger impact.
Here's the pipe-delimited shopping list (on the cloud) in store picking order and whether to buy in bulk:
Apples: Granny Smith, Winesp||Produce|FL-00f|short-term
Bananas||Produce|FL-00f|short-term
Broccoli||Produce|FL-00f|short-term
Cabbage||Produce|FL-00f|bulk
Cabbage: Red||Produce|FL-00f|bulk
cantaloupe||Produce|FL-00f|short-term
Carrots||Produce|FL-00f|bulk
Cauliflower||Produce|FL-00f|short-term
Celery||Produce|FL-00f|bulk
Cucumbers||Produce|FL-00f|bulk
Onions||Produce|FL-00f|bulk
Oranges||Produce|FL-00f|short-term
Peaches||Produce|FL-00f|short-term
Pears||Produce|FL-00f|short-term
Strawberries||Produce|FL-00f|short-term
Tomatoes||Produce|FL-00f|short-term
Deli Cheese|sliced to order|Dairy|FL-00m|bulk
Beef: Ground| hamburger|Meat/Seafood|FL-00r|bulk
Beef: Stew Meat||Meat/Seafood|FL-00r|bulk
Chicken (Breasts)||Meat/Seafood|FL-00r|bulk
Chicken boneless sknls thighs||Meat/Seafood|FL-00r|bulk
Pork Roast|SMALL preferred|Meat/Seafood|FL-00r|bulk
Coffee| Folgers med roast|Drinks|FL-01f|bulk
White Wheat Bread| Nature's Own|Breads|FL-01f|short-term
Special K Multi-Grain Crackers|Kellogs|Snacks|FL-01r|bulk
Cheese: Bleu: crumbles||Dairy|FL-01wa|bulk
Cheese: Cheddar Sticks: Kraft|Cracker Barrel sticks 2%|Dairy|FL-01wa|bulk
Cheese: Cheddar: block||Dairy|FL-01wa|bulk
Cheese: Cheddar: shredded|1.5 cups|Dairy|FL-01wa|bulk
Cheese: Cottage Cheese|SMALL SIZE fat free.small curd|Dairy|FL-01wa|short-term
Cheese: Mozzarella: sticks||Dairy|FL-01wa|bulk
Cheese: Provolone: sliced||Dairy deli|FL-01wa|bulk
Cheese: Sticks: lowfat|Sargento colby sticks 2%|Dairy|FL-01wa|bulk
Hummus||Dairy|FL-01wa|bulk
Parmesan Cheese| dry, sprinkle|Dry Goods|FL-01wa|bulk
Yogurt: lowfat: GREEK Plain||Dairy|FL-01wa|short-term
Butter: stick||Dairy|FL-01wb|bulk
Eggs| 3 doz|Dairy|FL-01wc|short-term
A1 Steak Sauce||Condiments|FL-02f|bulk
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Marinade: Teriyaki|Lawry's|Condiments|FL-02f|bulk
Mustard: Yellow| store brand|Condiments|FL-02f|bulk
Vinegar: Regular: Cider|64 fl oz jug|Condiments|FL-02f|bulk
Vinegar: White|1 gallon|Condiments|FL-02f|bulk
Worcestershire Sauce||Condiments|FL-02f|bulk
Marinade: Sesame Ginger|Lawry's|Condiments|FL-02m|bulk
Miracle Whip||Condiments|FL-02m|bulk
Mayonnaise: LITE|Kraft FREEMAYO|Condiments||
Salad Dressing: Bleu Cheese|Fat-Free. Wish Bone|Condiments|FL-02m|bulk
Salad Dressing: Greek|Ken's|Condiments|FL-02m|bulk
Salad Dressing: Hidden Valley Ranch|PACKET|Condiments|FL-02m|bulk
Beans: Blackeyed Peas|dry|Dry Goods|FL-02r|bulk
Beans: Field Peas|dry|Dry Goods|FL-02r|bulk
Beans: Split Green Peas|dry. Great Value|Dry Goods|FL-02r|bulk
Beans: Split Yellow Peas|dry.|Dry Goods|FL-02r|bulk
Peanut Butter|Creamy|Condiments|FL-02r|bulk
Applesauce Cup: natural| Motts|Canned Goods|FL-03f|bulk
Spaghetti Noodles||Dry Goods|FL-03f|bulk
Bouillon: Low Sodium: Beef|packets.red box. Herbox|Spices|FL-03m|bulk
Bouillon: Low Sodium: Chicken|packets.green box. Herbox|Spices|FL-03m|bulk
Spaghetti Sauce - Hunts| 4cheese|Canned Goods|FL-03m|bulk
Salsa:Tostitos All Nat Chunky| Mild 69oz lrge size|Condiments|FL-03r|bulk
Black Pepper: Ground||Spices|FL-04f|bulk
Black Pepper: Whole||Spices|FL-04f|bulk
Milk: Dry. Box/Packets|Cheap store brand|Dairy|FL-04f|bulk
Oil: Olive|Extra Light. Bertolli|Baking Supplies|FL-04f|bulk
Spice: Cinnamon: Ground||Spices|FL-04f|bulk
Spice: Cumin|Badia brand - Mexican|Spices|FL-04f|bulk
Spice: Roasted Garlic & Bell Pepper|McCormick|Spices||bulk
Spice: Garlic Powder|Badia brand - Mexican|Spices|FL-04f|bulk
Spice: Ginger: Ground||Spices|FL-04f|bulk
Spice: Nutmeg: Ground||Spices|FL-04f|bulk
Spice: Onion Flakes|Badia brand - Mexican|Spices|FL-04f|bulk
Spice: Onion Powder|Check Mexican section|Spices|FL-04f|bulk
Salt||Baking Supplies|FL-04f|bulk
Sweet N Low: Packets||Sweeteners|FL-04m|bulk
Oatmeal: Instant||Cereals/Breakfast|FL-05r|bulk
Ziploc 2.5 Gallon Bag||Paper & Plastic|FL-08m|bulk
Ziploc Gallon (Freezer)||Paper & Plastic|FL-08m|bulk
Ziploc Quart (Freezer)||Paper & Plastic|FL-08m|bulk
Ziploc Sandwich Bags||Paper & Plastic|FL-08m|
Ziploc Snack Bags||Paper & Plastic|FL-08m|bulk
Glad Ware -3cup round|plastic containers|Paper & Plastic|FL-08m|
Glad Ware -6cup round-ISH|plastic containers|Paper & Plastic|FL-08m|
Glad Ware -13cup square-ISH|plastic containers|Paper & Plastic|FL-08m|
Popcorn KERNELS||Snacks|FL-09r|bulk
Milk: 2%||Dairy|FL-09w|short-term
Veg: Broccoli Florets|Birds Eye|Frozen Foods|FL-10f|bulk
Veg: Brussel Sprouts||Frozen Foods|FL-10f|bulk
Veg: Collards||Frozen Foods|FL-10f|bulk
Veg: Snow Peas||Frozen Foods|FL-10f|bulk
Veg: Spinach||Frozen Foods|FL-10f|bulk
Veg: Squash||Frozen Foods|FL-10f|bulk
Veg: Sugar Snaps||Frozen Foods|FL-10f|bulk
Blueberries||Frozen Foods|FL-11m|bulk
Mangos||Frozen Foods|FL-11m|bulk
Peaches|Dole|Frozen Foods|FL-11m|bulk
Pineapple|Dole|Frozen Foods|FL-11m|
Strawberries||Frozen Foods|FL-11m|bulk
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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/anova/anova-precision-cooker-cook-sous-vide-with-your-ip
Seems like a pretty good, inexpensive option if you could have gotten in for $100.
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Where did all the sudden interest in sous vide come from?
I got a chance to much about with it a bit when I was training as a chef back around 1989 I think. Good results, but then didn't hear of it again for decades.
Last couple of years it is all over the place again. TV chefs?
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Go pick up a cheap, non-digital crockpot from wallyworld ($15 last I noticed) and add this
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00862G3TQ/ref=wms_ohs_product
Should work. I've got one lying around here somewhere but haven't had need to wire it up yet.
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>where
In some big recipe site, as I recall. One guy started evangelizing and posting recipes. I think he's published a couple of books since.
I like sous vide and did it for a few years and my mad scientist methodology made it exponentially easier than conventional cooking. But my laziness evolved and now I'd only do it for a large rare roast beef. Everything else is done in the rice cooker.
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RC introduced me to Sous Vide, and I use it 5-6 days a week now. It's so efficient. Drop dinner in the water, come back and eat... when I'm ready, not the food.
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Might have to try it again soon. Sounds like less hassle than it used to be.
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>less hassle
Less, yes, if you do like the recipe sites say. Waaaaay less if you go rogue like I did. But, again, I took what I gleened from sous vide and applied that to the replicator and now it's truly a sidebar process.
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http://en.rocketnews24.com/2014/06/14/how-to-make-epic-pancakes-with-your-japanese-rice-cooker/
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>>less hassle
"After that, hit the start button, and your role is done."
That's what I've been trying to tell you guys. Hit the button, walk away. Really, it works.
Thanks for the recipe, Viking. Kinda carb-y for me, but maybe I'll try it on the grandkids.
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>Kinda carb-y for
Me too, been toying with some low carb pancakes, however I guess it'll take too much work for you.
>sous vide
I actually backed the Anova cooker Joe mentioned above. Waiting for 2 of them in the mail.
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>low carb pancakes
The Atkins low carb pancake mix is pretty good. I got it through Amazon here in the US, but not sure if it is available in the EU.
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How are your low-carb diets going?
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I lost a lot of weight, started craving carbs, eventually I started brewing beer as a hobby and that pretty well ended the low carb diet. Gained back all of what I lost but because of beer, had fun doing it.
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Doing pretty well overall over time.
Being sick as a dog just for 4 days just put me under 93.5 kg - down from 114 kg at my highest 3,5 years ago. Strength-wise, going low carb is not ideal, but using the Carb Backloading protocol seems a good fit for me. Basically just eating your carbs - if any - at evening and especially not be fore training.
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Nice job Rumbas. Yeah, I know, low-carbing makes it hard to lift with intensity. I haven't gotten very scientific about it like you, but I've upped my fruit a little and it seemed to help me in the gym.
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>>low carb pancakes
This sounds ridiculous, but try the pancakes made out of crushed pork rinds. They taste like really good crepes or pastry.
http://www.mrbreakfast.com/superdisplay.asp?recipeid=1175
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Thanks for the idea, Rumbas.
>>carb-y
I didn't have any pork rinds or heavy cream, but I found some almond flour from my Atkins days. I tossed in a couple of eggs, cinnamon, nutmeg, and splenda. Hit "white rice" --worked! Low carb, relatively low calorie, pancakes.
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I found some quinoa flour from my Atkins days. 1/4 cup quinoa, 1/4 cup water, 1 egg, yeast, cinnamon, nutmeg, salt, and splenda. Hit "STEAM" --white rice setting was overcooking. Fast, 16 carbs, 200 calories. Pancake was large, about 10 inch diam x 1/2 inch thick. This would work for carb cravings.
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>rice-cooker pancakes
Rumbas, here's a tip; DON'T teach your kids how to do this unless you **REALLY** like having pancakes every day.
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I may be late to the party here... but reading this it seems like RC, you have some interesting way of cooking, and 90% of it is done in a rice cooker?
The pancakes linked here look awesome. I need to try that. I have the same rice cooker in white that was linked here, so I am interested to learn more. I cook only rice in it, but would love to try it for other items.
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>90% of it is done in a rice cooker?
Now up to 95-98% , I'd say. Though I've never looked online for recipes & such, one of my daughters says it has a significant following online. As mentioned upstream, I'm just shooting from the hip when it comes to recipes, timing, etc., as in .........hmmm, what's in the fridge? That might be good with... with... with.. (stirs around in cabinets)... GINGER sauce!
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I want to try the pancakes.
I am guessing you have seen this post by Roger Ebert.
http://www.rogerebert.com/rogers-journal/the-pot-and-how-to-use-it
He made a cookbook from the post and recipes in the comments.
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>Roger Ebert
Yeah, I had skimmed that article some time during my sous vide phase. It was most definitely on my mind when I started getting serious about the Replicator. But it was the 'mad scientist' mode of experimental cooking that led us to try it. I was doing all meats by sous vide but vegetables were just not getting hot enough. Louise was the one who got the idea of trying the rice cooker for vegetables. Once I saw how well that worked I decided to try a slab of hamburger ---Bingo! I had the seared taste I'd been missing in sous vide.
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Looks to be more trouble than my system, but worth checking out
Foodini 3-d food printer
http://www.naturalmachines.com/
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Sous vide has gotten simpler and cheaper
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07898VZN9/
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>>Sous vide has gotten simpler and cheaper
In the barbecue community there are a lot of people going the Sous-vide-que route. Basically cook it sous-vide and then throw it on the smoker for 30 minutes or so to get the smoke into it. https://amazingribs.com/more-technique-and-science/more-cooking-science/sous-vide-que-marrying-grill-and-smoker-sous-vide
I have yet to go down that road but I would expect within the next year I will have a sous-vide unit of some sort.
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>bbq
Yeah, it's big with the thick steak boys, too. They sv, then sear/blacken it.
For <$80, you can't go wrong with that unit I just posted. I experimented with it all weekend. Uses a existing pot. Dog simple. Accurate.
I'm hooked on beef ribs lately. Gonna try sv with them soon.
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>beef ribs
One of my favorites. Those giant plate ribs are probably my favorite thing to smoke. Basically like the best part of a brisket with a nice, convenient handle that cooks in half the time of a whole brisket.
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amateurs.
7 Surprising Ways to Use a Rice Cooker
https://www.lifesavvy.com/159832/7-surprising-ways-to-use-a-rice-cooker/