The Less is More Thread

[rcjordan]

You win 2 pints, jetboy.

> If at first they don't get the message

Yes. The house has nice woodwork and I'd hate to mess it up, but after the first 2 shells things will get serious.

[dogboy]

...and don't forget a reload somewhere in there too.  After how many, depends if the hunting plug is in there:)

[rcjordan]

That's why I went with the Saiga --clips (or drum) rather than a tube loader.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJHnYox1zMc

[Brad]

>>all-you-can-eat steak 20 times a week.

Right then, just found my diet.

[rcjordan]

>just found my diet

Really. It works well for men. Women seem to lose weight slower on it.  Atkins is an expensive diet, though.

[agerhart]

Really. It works well for men.

Until they die at 50

[dogboy]

>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJHnYox1zMc

Right then, just found my shotgun.

[rcjordan]

>just found my shotgun

It's a really fun shotgun to own.  You'll enjoy customizing it.

>die at 50

It would seem that way ...particularly if you look at the obscene amounts of fat you can have.  But it's fairly easy to modify it to be a generally well-balanced diet. In fact, my mom's doctor put her on a low carb diet after her heart attack (she weighs 97 pounds, so it wasn't for weight loss).

Go on it. Buy a glucose tester and a blood pressure machine.  Have your cholesterol checked.  These numbers don't lie.

[littleman]

Agerhart and others, you may find this video interesting.  It was done by a nutrition researcher at Standford and he compared low carb Atkins like diets to low fat  and other diets,  The study also includes blood work and long term results. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eREuZEdMAVo

The researcher is a vegan, and he was bothered by the results.  Basically, low carb wins in every way.

[rcjordan]

Study disputes low-carb diet concerns

the low-carb diet raised levels of HDL "good" cholesterol far more, but there was little difference on most other measures and no significant side effects, said lead author Gary D. Foster of Temple University

http://www.philly.com/philly/health_and_science/20100803_Study_disputes_low-carb_diet_concerns.html

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Low carb diets like Atkins 'better for blood pressure'

Participants in the study lost weight on both diets
A low-carbohydrate diet like Atkins is better at cutting blood pressure than weight-loss pills, say US doctors.

The researchers from the Veterans Affairs Medical Centre and Duke University Medical Centre say nearly half (47%) of those in the low-carbohydrate group were able to reduce or cut out their blood pressure medication, compared with around one fifth (21%) of those on orlistat plus a low-fat diet.
   
 It's important to know you can try a diet instead of medication and get the same weight loss results with fewer costs and potentially fewer side effects. The two strategies were equally effective at improving cholesterol and glucose levels, as well as waist size and weight loss.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8478629.stm

[Peter]

What he said

[agerhart]

I'm not saying eating meat is bad.

I'm saying eating a lot of red meat is bad.

[rcjordan]

>There are only 2 reasons I am larger than I would like to be. Laziness and greed

Then low-carb is the diet for you --assuming you like meat.  It's fairly easy to do out in the real world and you can indulge your food greed on steaks or chops or salmon.

Once you knock off some weight, then consider switching to the harder-to-do low-carb with less red meat.  Add vegetable protein.  As I said above, it's do-able, but takes more effort to prepare.

I'm not an Atkins zealot, btw. I just have had good experiences with low-carb and know it works.  But I also have concerns that are similar to agerhart's in that a diet heavy on red meat is going to cause other problems if used long term.

[Drastic]

Yeah, if it were up to me, we'd be eating steak, kebabs and burgers several times per week. Since Amy does the shopping, we eat a lot more chicken.

There is some incentive in there for me to go to the grocery store with her, since I pick out the beef. (and the beer)

Still, I usually don't go.

[ergophobe]

Meanwhile, old Jesse McVeigh the well digger is sitting on the porch of the Union Hotel watching the freaks walk by and muttering under his breath, "No matter how New Age you get, old age gonna kick your a##."

- Utah Philips, "Nevada City" from the album "The Past Didn't Go Anywhere"