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« Reply #30 on: February 21, 2016, 01:38:52 AM »

Bolt was on my 'get back to this one' list, too.
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« Reply #31 on: February 21, 2016, 02:18:38 AM »

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Just happened to find this cms discussion on reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/webdev/comments/3rd89z/best_flat_file_cms_going_into_2016_grav_bolt/
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« Reply #32 on: February 21, 2016, 02:33:23 AM »

bolt is database. I like the look of it, but I'm going to can it for now.

Right now, Debbie says kirby or grav.  Kirby is $90 per site.
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« Reply #33 on: February 21, 2016, 02:35:16 AM »

bolt is sql lite though so nearly the same as flatfile, wouldn't have included it otherwise.

Awright dammit keep your notes in here from now on.

Good reddit link!
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« Reply #34 on: February 21, 2016, 02:37:17 AM »

>nearly the same as flatfile

In your heart of hearts, you know it'll come back and bite you in the a##.
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« Reply #35 on: February 21, 2016, 11:29:15 AM »

Actually I've used sqlite before and been surprised at how stable and robust it was, for what it is.

I'm comfortable with it tbh, and if I get a post-happy client who ends up posting 5-8x/week, in a couple years flatfiles would probably be unwieldy.

I just don't want an external db server connection.

Also, I'm a bit surprised you don't like serendipity. It looks rc-ish.
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« Reply #36 on: February 21, 2016, 03:34:44 PM »

I'm really hoping we can find what we both want in a  single cms.   If you can get one that is client-proof, I'm pretty sure I could figure out how to make it work for me.
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« Reply #37 on: February 21, 2016, 03:57:28 PM »

Just dug into grav, doesn't look good for me. It's mostly a core and you have to add skeletons, themes or plugins to get what you want.

For example you either need a theme with blog built in or use a blog-adder plugin.

The editor is also markdown, not client friendly.

It's possible to make it workable by cobbling a bunch of this together, but getting away from my goals doing that.

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I'm about to look over the reddit thread.

My debbie says bolt or pulse look most promising at this early stage.

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Every time I look I find like 5 more, jeez. There's gotta be something out there really close to what we need.
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« Reply #38 on: February 21, 2016, 04:16:23 PM »

So many of these would be great if they would do some kind of rich text or wysiwyg editor. I search for rss, then that... quite often threads of people begging for this.

Typical dev response  "But markdown is *so easy*!" ....yeah, for us, but not clients, dumbass.
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« Reply #39 on: February 21, 2016, 04:27:08 PM »

Since these systems tend to use generic file types, there is a decent possibility that a separate rich text or wysiwyg editor UN-affiliated with the cms could be overlayed. I've done it before when working with csv files.  YellowCMS might be too simple or not have file upload, but might have a good editor. (Just an example off the cuff --don't know much about Yellow)
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« Reply #40 on: February 21, 2016, 04:27:43 PM »

>Come to Hanoi and teach us. We'll buy you a beer.

>>Come to Hanoi and teach us. We'll buy you a beer.
>or 10, nah 40, make it 400

Ha! It's tempting. simplytheresa is going to Viet Nam in July. If the timing were a little closer, we might make it a family trip. Not going to happen this year though.

Git is one of those things that is mostly about sucking it up and spending 2-3 hours to get started.
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« Reply #41 on: February 21, 2016, 04:35:45 PM »

> mostly about sucking it up and spending 2-3 hours to get started

Nothing gets Louise madder at her 'tech support' than when I tell her she needs to spend some seat time and grind it out. No, I'm supposed to do a Vulcan Mind Meld or something.

500 Hanoi beers is our top offer, EG.
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« Reply #42 on: February 21, 2016, 05:21:11 PM »

lol, rc.

ok, updated list, I went through everything in the reddit thread, which also included everything at: http://www.flatphile.co/

First off I nuked kirby, I mistook the markdown editor as rich/wys.
https://octobercms.com/ - looks very good
http://www.nibbleblog.com/ - looks promising
http://www.pluxml.org/ - site is french but English version of cms available - looks good from what I can understand
a couple other possibilities without active dev.

an rc-notable - potential for mobile blogging:
https://blot.im/ - auto posts whatever text/images you drop into your dropbox. $20/yr

> possibility that a separate rich text or wysiwyg editor UN-affiliated with the cms could be overlayed.
Yeah I've thought about it, but I want the whole thing p##s-easy so an elf can do it unattended. I'm will to go the route as a last resort, which probably means trying something like feindura first. (Dev not active.)

My new shortlist to really dig into:

bolt - my early debbie fav
https://octobercms.com/
http://www.nibbleblog.com/
http://www.pluxml.org/
pulsecms - looked good, not sure about the editor though. Have to use {block} to use it, but you need {blog} for blog, so not sure if both possible.
mecha-cms - probably too early

I think we've unearthed the bulk of them. I have a feeling something from this short list will fit the bill.
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« Reply #43 on: February 21, 2016, 05:35:48 PM »

>short list

I have a very few others to chase down, mostly mentioned in more obscure articles, but I doubt they'll make the short list.

>but you need {blog} for blog,

No. In the end, all I need is the ability for the site to make/update its menu system. I can hack a blog or whatever from that. Beyond that, nested folders -in both content & images.
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« Reply #44 on: February 21, 2016, 05:56:21 PM »

http://www.pluxml.org/  -from what I can translate- looks good. Long-term, on-going development. Active forum. Looks like it will gen static as an option. I see what appear to be plugins that use/merge decent, well-known file management modules (CKEditor, TinyMCE). http://forum.pluxml.org/viewforum.php?id=21

The bad news --main documentation is PDF. In French.
http://telechargements.pluxml.org/docs/PluXml_-_Documentation.pdf

I'll see what I can dig up about uploads, editors, & nested folders.
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