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I, Brian

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Re: Magento vs Woocommerce
« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2012, 08:27:58 PM »
Just installed Woocommerce and went to download an imported from Magento. Only to find Woothemes hacked:
http://demo.woothemes.com/dos/

Still, Magento is too much of a loose canon for a sinle user like myself, especially as whenever I ask third-party developers for help they prove either unreliable or simply take the p##s.

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Re: Magento vs Woocommerce
« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2012, 06:57:46 PM »
Just had an email that product importer deluxe for woo commerce should be rolling out support for attributes tomorrow, also have to say woo commerce have been absolutely brill on the customer service side.

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Re: Magento vs Woocommerce
« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2012, 08:10:16 AM »
Had a bit of a look at woo commerce doesn't seem a serious contender at all for us.

The only serious alternative we now have to magento is Drupal commerce. Looks like it could be a contender for us, but haven't got far enough down that path to say much more than that yet.

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Re: Magento vs Woocommerce
« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2012, 11:21:53 PM »
Just had an email that product importer deluxe for woo commerce should be rolling out support for attributes tomorrow, also have to say woo commerce have been absolutely brill on the customer service side.

Is that for moving from Magento?

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Re: Magento vs Woocommerce
« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2012, 02:05:14 AM »
I had a magento site and we were having such performance and usability issues that we switched to Big Commerce. It is about $40 a month, but includes hosting. It has a nice feature set and it pretty easy to use.

Not as configurable as magento, but 100x easier / quicker / stable / etc. At least in our use.

If you have a dedicated server for it and know what you are doing magento is great. For anyone who doesn't I would stay away from it.

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Re: Magento vs Woocommerce
« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2012, 12:08:34 PM »
Am currently migrating from Magento to Woocommerce.

I'm sick of having to rely on unreliable developers to do what should be the simplest things in Magento. In Wordpress I should be able to make most any changes I need as Wordpress actually cares about being relatively user-friendly. :)

Magento is a big pile of wank IMO, and that the only reason developers recommend it is that they need to be hired to operate it! 

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Re: Magento vs Woocommerce
« Reply #21 on: June 06, 2012, 12:45:37 PM »
Is it a large store brian?
I can't help thinking it will be fine for a focused store selling a small set of simple items but anything larger or more complex won't cut it (but then product combinations are a PITA anyway)
Be interesting to hear how it goes.
« Last Edit: June 06, 2012, 01:01:24 PM by Chunkford »
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Re: Magento vs Woocommerce
« Reply #22 on: June 06, 2012, 12:52:35 PM »
We just did integration to an important Danish payment processor and the whole experience with Woocommerce and Wishlist Membership software was really good. WooCommerce is actually pretty cool for a small store and day-to-day operations are a breeze.

Thumbs up for Woocommerce for smaller stores.

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Re: Magento vs Woocommerce
« Reply #23 on: June 07, 2012, 02:23:27 PM »
Is it a large store brian?
I can't help thinking it will be fine for a focused store selling a small set of simple items but anything larger or more complex won't cut it (but then product combinations are a PITA anyway)
Be interesting to hear how it goes.

It's only got a few hundred products - my previous impression was that Magento was an industry standard, much improved over osCommerce, and the one to use for the long term - so that's why I set up with Magento in the first place. Figured pain now, to save on the pain of a big switchover later on.

However, Magento is a bad joke, that is only useful IMO if you're milking clients for development support. It doesn't appear to do anything special. I thought osCommerce was user-unfriendly but Magento takes it to new extremes.

Am finding Woocommerce to be a far better experience - it's been developed with all the core features of Magento I needed, but is far far easier and simpler to use. Any shortfalls in the Woocommerce software itself seems easily covered by the plugins.

As I have at least one WP site running fine with tens of thousands of posts, I can't see any longterm problems with Woocommerce, so long as the security element is covered.

Time and money wasted with Magento, but the Woocommerce set up seems to be going fine.

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Re: Magento vs Woocommerce
« Reply #24 on: June 07, 2012, 03:03:41 PM »
That's a nice size store to set-up and manage :)

I agree with what you say. Magento is so over complicated but for most they think it's the route to go down because of all the developers shouting about it, saying they need a jet plane to go to the shops in.
But then it's not a bad business model to have. It's lucky we're in the know :)

Open cart is my normal choice of weapon now, but I might have to find the time to play with woocommerce now, cheers Brian :p
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Re: Magento vs Woocommerce
« Reply #25 on: June 08, 2012, 10:10:32 AM »
To be fair, most of those products are just variations of the same thing. Magento forces you to create a new product for every variation you have. So if you have a shirt that comes in three sizes, you need to create 4 different products - 1 for each size, and then 1 to group them together. A shirt with 3 sizes and 3 colours means you need to create 7 products.

The suggestion with Woocommerce is that you can do away with all this using the "variable products" option - create the product, and then on a single page list the variable attributes and corresponding stock levels. That would be so much more intuitive and easy to use, and make more sense. Will see later if that's the case once I've finished editing my imported list.

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Re: Magento vs Woocommerce
« Reply #26 on: June 26, 2012, 12:30:36 PM »
Well, I'm all set up with Woocommerce now, and everything is running fine as I need it.

There are still a few niggles with Woocommerce - it doesn't feel like a mature platform yet, more an advanced beta. The main flaw is the stock management process, specifically dealing with "cost", which is still not built into Woocommerce by default. However, it's easy to create a custom field in the WP-admin section to apply to all products and enter the value there.

The downside with that method is that I have to set up all products as "grouped" (the equivalent of Magento "configurable") - when Woocommerce provides an extremely simple "variable" option where you simply add product variations by SKU, attribute, and stock level to an existing product - how Magento should have done it - but you can't apply different "cost" levels here.

There are also a few issues with "hidden" products still being displayed in templates or used in the Google feed.

However, these are issues I figure will be resolved as it grows.

Also, because it's Wordpress, it's damn easy to tweak most everything, and when I have had to post in their support forum, answers have come relatively quickly (as opposed to the Magento forums where no one really seems to know how to do anything).

Hopefully Woocommerce will mature into a more comprehensive platform on issues such as cost, but the variety of extensions take up much of the slack of additional functionality.

Another pointer is that it would be quite easy to set up multiple shops with different products for keyword URLs using Woocommerce, or else clones just using the export/import feature.

Frankly, I would have paid real money for Woocommerce, and at present, cannot think of a single reason for using Magento unless you want to employ a team of developers to do all the work for you. Magento may be "free" but I've already wasted a lot of time and money trying to work with it, and "open source" just makes it feel like OSCommerce - all the complications (ie, templates) but with even less usability for the store admin.
« Last Edit: June 26, 2012, 12:34:52 PM by I, Brian »

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Re: Magento vs Woocommerce
« Reply #27 on: June 26, 2012, 04:23:27 PM »
Thanks for the update, I have just built my second shop on woocommerce now and I have to say the set up has been sweet, lovely and easy unlike other platforms where I have spent at least a month under the hood tinkering. A lot of cheaper plugins are coming out now on code canyon and there are a few helpful free plugins too. Developers are quickly adapting plugins to move to woo and the spread of people now developing on it is swift. I have also had a fast and helpful response on the members forum as well when posting for support issues, but thankfully I have not had to test this much.

 I also bought a plugin that was incompatible with a particular merchant for UK sales, it was about a week before I went onto integration after scratching my head and doing some investigation I realised my blunder and emailed them. They were brill and just refunded straight away and were very pleasant about it, which again made me happy in my decision to switch.

Whatever 'off the shelf' cart we build on will never be perfect because every trader has their own individual needs but I am finding it very easy to most of my needs and love that I can integrate other non related plugins into my shop system which is why I chose to move to a wordpress ecommerce system originally back when I originally set up on shopp.

It would be interesting to know at what point it starts falling apart though, the shops I have built on it only have a reasonably small range so I have not tested the limitations yet.

So I am still championing them, updates are coming thick and fast which of course has its disadvantages if you need to heavy tweaks to the code, but the advantage is it is improving all the time.

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Re: Magento vs Woocommerce
« Reply #28 on: January 13, 2013, 02:24:43 PM »
I know this is an old one but just want to drag it back up as I know many of you moved. I haven't really tested the fall down point of woo yet and am curious as to how far you can push it, is anyone running it with a large number of products/high volume traffic yet? Have any of you managed to bring it to it's knees?

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Re: Magento vs Woocommerce
« Reply #29 on: January 14, 2013, 12:28:49 PM »
Not busy enough with traffic enough for that.

However, plenty of experience with Wordpress on busy sites before and never had a problem, so long as it was hosted on my own server. My shop is.