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Re: Musk offers to buy Twitter
« Reply #30 on: October 28, 2022, 11:56:29 AM »
>Murdock and MySpace

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Re: Musk offers to buy Twitter
« Reply #31 on: October 28, 2022, 12:30:18 PM »
On Thursday night, Mr. Musk closed his $44 billion deal to buy the social media service, said three people with knowledge of the situation. He also began cleaning house, with at least four top Twitter executives — including the chief executive and chief financial officer — getting fired on Thursday.

Elon Musk Completes $44 Billion Deal to Own Twitter, Fires CEO and CFO - The New York Times

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/27/technology/elon-musk-twitter-deal-complete.html

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Re: Musk offers to buy Twitter
« Reply #32 on: October 28, 2022, 04:20:36 PM »
Quote of the day...

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“It’s a ‘back-to-the-future’ reversion to content rules circa 2010, but one that ignores the lived experience over the last decade,” said Colin Crowell, Twitter’s former head of global public policy, who left the
company in 2019. “People eventually realize that the Wild West needs a sheriff, both for ensuring the safety of citizens but also for enhancing the prospects for commerce.”

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« Reply #33 on: October 28, 2022, 04:27:04 PM »
>enhancing the prospects for commerce

That's been /r's problem, as well.  It takes years of moderating and site re-development/morphing to make a social portal palatable for top-tier advertisers.   ...And only a misstep or two to blow it.

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Re: Musk offers to buy Twitter
« Reply #34 on: October 28, 2022, 05:21:02 PM »
>commerce

This is the key.  Musk does not care what individual Twitter users like me think or want, but reality hits the road with advertisers and if they make it clear that that they want limits on the craziness or they take their money elsewhere, Musk will listen.

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Re: Musk offers to buy Twitter
« Reply #35 on: October 28, 2022, 10:28:22 PM »
hhh!

Welcome to hell, Elon
You f###ed up real good, kiddo. - The Verge

https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/28/23428132/elon-musk-twitter-acquisition-problems-speech-moderation

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Re: Musk offers to buy Twitter
« Reply #36 on: October 28, 2022, 10:41:46 PM »
That was a beautiful article. 

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Re: Musk offers to buy Twitter
« Reply #37 on: October 28, 2022, 10:44:26 PM »

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Re: Musk offers to buy Twitter
« Reply #38 on: October 29, 2022, 05:39:08 PM »
I don't see how we break the Gordian knot that the internet created - publishing platforms with near open access and no editorial process. That's a new thing. It's not like a traditional publisher where multiple people along the chain (agent, acquisitions editor, editor, bookstore buyer) all have to make a positive decision, not a block but a buy decision, before something sees the light of day. It's also not like a traditional common carrier where my phone calls are not broadcast and available to the world.

Will it just come down to advertisers forcing platforms into policing the internet?

It would seem so, based on Elon's letter to advertisers saying that Twitter cannot become a free-for-all- hellscape
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1585619322239561728/photo/2

And it turns out, Truth Social is pretty aggressive about banning people they don't like, especially people who don't like Devin Nunes... though the driver is less clear (Devin Nunes personal ego or user feedback or just a fear of actual fr## sp##ch on Truth Social).
https://www.techdirt.com/2022/02/24/as-expected-trumps-social-network-is-rapidly-banning-users-it-doesnt-like-without-telling-them-why/

Amidst that some legislators want to overturn Section 230 so they can make websites responsible for moderating content. Others want to overturn it in order to prevent websites from moderating content.
https://www.theverge.com/21294198/section-230-tech-congress-justice-department-white-house-trump-biden

Meanwhile, a Texas court has ruled that Texas bill HB 12 can go into effect, because Youtube and Facebook are not websites, but are common carriers
https://www.theverge.com/2022/5/13/23068423/fifth-circuit-texas-social-media-law-ruling-first-amendment-section-230

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HB 20, to recap a little, bans social media platforms from removing, downranking, demonetizing, or otherwise “discriminat[ing] against” content based on “the viewpoint of the user or another person.” It applies to any “internet website or application” that hits 50 million monthly active users and “enables users to communicate with other users,” with exceptions for internet service providers and media sites. Social networks also aren’t allowed to ban users based on their location in Texas, a provision clearly meant to stop sites from simply pulling out of the state — which might be the simplest solution for many of them.

So thirty years on, we still have not settled who is a publisher and who is a common carrier and somehow Twitter has to navigate all that.

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Re: Musk offers to buy Twitter
« Reply #39 on: November 01, 2022, 09:07:17 AM »
Twitter Blue to Reportedly Cost $20 a Month as Musk Revises Verification Process

http://technologyembryo.com/twitter-blue-to-reportedly-cost-20-a-month-as-musk-revises-verification-process/

Takeaways:

1. Musk wants to start charging $4.99 a month for users to have the blue verification check mark.

2. Musk wants to charge $20 for subscription service "Twitter Blue" which supposedly also verifies but also gives subscribers access to more better features.

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Re: Musk offers to buy Twitter
« Reply #40 on: November 01, 2022, 02:26:06 PM »
I don't see his proposal as bad tbh. If anyone wants to flaunt themselves as a verified figure, pay a few quid.

Maybe part of the thinking is it pays to kick out the ones that are pretending to be them.

Could perhaps tax that amount to fund alternative 'platforms' to have a conversation, to mitigate any crazy Twitter decisions on what's right and wrong.
« Last Edit: November 01, 2022, 02:27:45 PM by BoL »

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Re: Musk offers to buy Twitter
« Reply #41 on: November 01, 2022, 02:52:50 PM »
Same here, it's not altogether bad, especially those building brands should pay. 

One famous person did ask (paraphrasing) "How will people distinguish between me and those posing as me so that people send the death threats and abuse to the right account?"

This is all pretty minor stuff.  Musk needs to go after the robots and agents provocateur accounts and generally clean up the dreck.

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Re: Musk offers to buy Twitter
« Reply #42 on: November 01, 2022, 08:03:27 PM »
I guess I see it differently, he is literally proposing to charge the content creators.  If anything the pay should be going in the other direction.

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Re: Musk offers to buy Twitter
« Reply #43 on: November 01, 2022, 08:31:55 PM »
Unless the content creators are using twitter's reach to build their brand ...or they're hooked on stardust.

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Re: Musk offers to buy Twitter
« Reply #44 on: November 01, 2022, 09:51:24 PM »
I guess I see it differently, he is literally proposing to charge the content creators.  If anything the pay should be going in the other direction.

I see your point LM:  he should be glad Taylor Swift is on Twitter.  Ditto people like the US President and members of the administration because they help make Twitter the go to network.