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jimbanks

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The Thing I Hate About Wordpress Is.....
« on: December 08, 2010, 07:43:48 PM »
I've just logged into a blog to find that WP 3.03 is now available, and I've only just finished upgrading them all to 3.0.2.

Why do they do this to me

The say it :

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Fixes issues in the XML-RPC remote publishing interface which under certain circumstances allowed Author- and Contributor-level users to improperly edit, publish or delete posts.

Pah!

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ergophobe

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Re: The Thing I Hate About Wordpress Is.....
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2010, 08:35:25 PM »
If you're hosting the sites spread out on servers all over the place, there's not much you can do.

If not, you can reduce the hassle by serving up multiple domains on WPMU.

Sadly, since the WP/WPMU merge, serving multiple domains is a bit of a hassle, but it can be done.

You can also use symlinks to use one codebase to serve as many sites as you want, so if there are no DB changes, it's just one update.

Drupal is, by the way, a lot worse UNLESS you use drush + either rysnc or cvs. Then it's quick via command line.

I don't dare to live this dangerously, but if I had as many sites as you guys do, I would just script the updates.

I'm not sure you can do it on WP, but with drupal, you can do almost any management task from the bash shell using the tools I mentioned above... and it's dead easy to run many sites from one codebase, but only makes sense if you have a very defined module set and the sites are similar in terms of functionality (otherwise you get into the situation where you want to upgrade, but site one needs version 1.1 of a module and site 2 needs version 1.2 of a module and and and).
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Re: The Thing I Hate About Wordpress Is.....
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2010, 09:32:14 PM »
That's the first time I've heard someone whine about quick response to a security threat.

They way I see it you have two options:
1. You can pretend that security threat is not real and wait for WP 3.1 before you upgrade
2. setup upgrade scripts

I can't think of another application that is as easy to upgrade as WP. What you need to do is install and update WP with subversion (http://codex.wordpress.org/Installing/Updating_WordPress_with_Subversion). When you have done that you can set up a script to handle upgrades across multiple sites (http://codex.wordpress.org/Installing_Multiple_Blogs#WP-Create_and_WP-Mass-Upgrade)
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Re: The Thing I Hate About Wordpress Is.....
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2010, 10:10:01 PM »
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Re: The Thing I Hate About Wordpress Is.....
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2010, 11:46:45 PM »
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That's the first time I've heard someone whine about quick response to a security threat.

Without referencing this specific upgrade - I just wish the would stop messing with the damned thing - the upgrades offer me very little  - just more hassle.

I have hundreds of the damned things and it is a regular PITA.


.. yes, I know it is not supposed to be used a spam tool - and I know we are not typical users, but FFS, I just someone slap their hands with a ruler everytime they start meddling with it.
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Re: The Thing I Hate About Wordpress Is.....
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2010, 01:57:08 AM »
I'm not whining......well OK maybe a little. It's more an observation that 3.0.2 came out less than a week ago.

It doesn't take long, and I have nothing more than experimental throwaway domains that I use it with currently but when I embark on a fuller scale, bigger model it would be nice to know there was an easier way of handling, and thanks to Torben there is now!

Thanks  :)
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Re: The Thing I Hate About Wordpress Is.....
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2010, 05:05:50 PM »
Yeah, great info Torben

As i was posting about Drupal, I was thinking there had to be some CVS/SVN/git solution for Wordpress, but I had never heard of any. Thanks!
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Re: The Thing I Hate About Wordpress Is.....
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2011, 05:52:56 PM »
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Re: The Thing I Hate About Wordpress Is.....
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2011, 12:26:33 PM »
I agree especially when dealing with complex sites with custom or amended plugins, you just never know if it is going to break the site unless you have a test site in place. Wordpress is a fantastic package with huge advantages which is why I still maintain that it is the best system to build on for the majority of sites. However the constant upgrades and inability to handle 30K plus posts are the frustrating disadvantages of a system that has so much to offer. I choose my upgrades very carefully and tend to only upgrade if a security flaw has been detected and fixed or they have developed a must have feature.

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Re: The Thing I Hate About Wordpress Is.....
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2011, 02:37:03 AM »
Quote from: ergophobe on December 09, 2010, 05:05:50 PM
... there had to be some CVS/SVN/git solution for Wordpress, but I had never heard of any. Thanks!

You can use plain old subversion to manage WordPress installs:

Install:
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svn checkout http://core.svn.wordpress.org/tags/3.0.4/ . (replacing 3.0.4 with current version)

Upgrade:
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svn switch http://core.svn.wordpress.org/tags/3.0.4/
I don't do WordPress although I've dabbled with it in the past. The thing I hate about WordPress is that it seems to have some fundamental security issues, serious bugs just keep occurring again and again. Its profile is too high, its footprint is too visible and it is way too much of a hacker target.
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Re: The Thing I Hate About Wordpress Is.....
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2011, 09:18:24 AM »
I'd say that the (supposed) increased security offered by the upgrades mitigates the hassle of doing multiple upgrades somewhat, but if it's proving to be too much of a pain in the arse maybe just make sure that your wordpress version number isn't showing in your source code and take your chances by leaving doing the upgrades for a few builds.
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Re: The Thing I Hate About Wordpress Is.....
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2011, 03:09:20 PM »
Bastard wordpress.  Kept my gob shut in this thread before. However it just came to mind when wp auto update just utterly borked one of my sites.

Been looking at managewp.com as a result of some of the stuff here.  Looks pretty interesting.
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