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Why We Are Here => Hardware & Technology => Topic started by: rcjordan on November 04, 2010, 10:54:43 PM

Title: NFFC, so help me...
Post by: rcjordan on November 04, 2010, 10:54:43 PM
...if you start that Apple fanboy stuff I'll nuke your ass.
Title: Re: NFFC, so help me...
Post by: mivox on November 04, 2010, 11:02:23 PM
Hey, anyone wanna hear about my new iPad?  ;D
Title: Re: NFFC, so help me...
Post by: nffc on November 04, 2010, 11:16:46 PM
10/4

BTW you read this?

"In a private report to clients, the Gartner research firm is urging CEOs to clear any obstacles preventing IT departments from taking advantage of the iPad."

http://www.tuaw.com/2010/11/04/gartner-report-tells-corporations-to-get-moving-on-the-ipad/

Sent via my Ipad
Title: Re: NFFC, so help me...
Post by: TallTroll on November 04, 2010, 11:26:07 PM
WHHHHHEEEEEEeeeeeeee...

Incoming!
Title: Re: NFFC, so help me...
Post by: Rupert on November 05, 2010, 10:21:10 AM
I like Apple:

For my sons Birthday we bought him an iPod, my daughter had an iPhone for hers and for my Birthday I was pleased to receive an iPad.


Thinking along the same lines I got my wife an iRon - and then the fight started.
Title: Re: NFFC, so help me...
Post by: Woz on November 05, 2010, 10:39:53 AM
Groan ...
Title: Re: NFFC, so help me...
Post by: Torben on November 05, 2010, 02:21:30 PM
Thet did a good job on the iPhone but i agree they did a shitty job on the iPad.

Given the size of the iPad they should have been able to give it more cpu and functionality in general. It's pretty but that's it.
Title: Re: NFFC, so help me...
Post by: grnidone on November 05, 2010, 04:42:06 PM
I wanted to update my iphone with a new one (I love how easy it is to use...I don't read user manuals to "get" the blackberry or other phones), but the new ones are so heavy.

I will say the new MacBook Airs are *really* impressive.  They have a start up time of like 3 seconds.  The rep was showing me how you could start all the programs at once and they are all up and running in like 5 seconds.  SUPER fast, but very little hard drive space.
Title: Re: NFFC, so help me...
Post by: mivox on November 05, 2010, 10:54:38 PM
I really hadn't noticed the new phone being heavy. Does it weigh much more than the old ones? I think it's well worth it, if so.
Title: Re: NFFC, so help me...
Post by: bill on November 06, 2010, 02:51:40 PM
I'm on my 3rd 3G iPhone. They keep breaking. I love my Apple Care. I can't wait until my current contract runs out so I can get a decent (recent) one.
Title: Re: NFFC, so help me...
Post by: Rumbas on November 06, 2010, 04:55:45 PM
Love the iPhone, hate hate hate their iTunes POS.
Title: Re: NFFC, so help me...
Post by: mivox on November 07, 2010, 01:17:27 AM
Quote from: bill on November 06, 2010, 02:51:40 PM
I'm on my 3rd 3G iPhone. They keep breaking. I love my Apple Care. I can't wait until my current contract runs out so I can get a decent (recent) one.
I've got a 3GS on ebay right now... hehehe

Quote from: Rumbas on November 06, 2010, 04:55:45 PM
Love the iPhone, hate hate hate their iTunes POS.
Yes, yes, yes. The "for your own good" lockdown system sucks. That's the big thing I miss about Palm.
Title: Re: NFFC, so help me...
Post by: bill on November 07, 2010, 03:05:27 AM
Quote3GS
Lucky you. There's no more 3GS stock in Japan. You can only get 4G units now. The carrier here won't let you use unlocked phones from outside their plan. They can detect them and over-charge you for data. It's quite prohibitive.

QuoteiTunes POS
I wish there was something, anything else.
Title: Re: NFFC, so help me...
Post by: Travoli on November 07, 2010, 03:59:15 AM
>TC1100
Docs' offices here have been using those (or similar) for a few years.  No paperwork, its all on the tablet.

I also have an old iPhone 3G.  Steve Jobs definitely gimped the old phone performance with the 4.Xios.  Mostly intentional, I believe.  I've been waiting to see what Verizon comes out with, and if ATT reacts with lower plan rates.  Trying to hold out, but I admit to having gone to see if the new phones are in stock.  Thus far, they haven't been.
Title: Re: NFFC, so help me...
Post by: mivox on November 07, 2010, 07:32:41 AM
My 3G developed wifi problems after stock warranty was over, so I used it as an excuse to get a 3GS, which had no problems with iOS 4... but then I went to New York for a few weeks, and picked up an iPhone 4 at the flagship store after checking out a friend's out there. It's the single best upgrade since the 3G when they introduced GPS.

However, the first one I got was fucked. Couldn't keep a phone call connected to save my life. Happily I realized the problem before I left NY, and went back to exchange it. No hassle whatsoever, very nice customer service.
Title: Re: NFFC, so help me...
Post by: creative666 on November 08, 2010, 06:04:03 PM
I tried updating my iphone 3G via online download which bricked it - took it to Vodacom and they informed it looks like I have dropped it one to many times, they said they were suprised it still worked! Time for the iphone4 I think...
Title: Re: NFFC, so help me...
Post by: PaulH on November 08, 2010, 06:22:56 PM
Dropped my old nokia yesterday, trying to resists but looks like its time to get an iphone and become part of the hive  :'(
Title: Re: NFFC, so help me...
Post by: mivox on November 09, 2010, 01:40:57 AM
Well geeze, Paul... Don't do it if it's going to make you cry! It's probably not worth it.  ;)
Title: Re: NFFC, so help me...
Post by: PaulH on November 09, 2010, 08:03:07 AM
lol
;D
Title: Re: NFFC, so help me...
Post by: Rupert on November 09, 2010, 01:14:17 PM
Paul,
Go for the HTC Desire. 

Google Navigation is awesome. Cannot get it for Iphone.

(Don't ask NFFC how accurate it is though)
Title: Re: NFFC, so help me...
Post by: jangro on November 09, 2010, 02:11:39 PM
My iPhone 3GS has given up the ghost and I cannot upgrade until January.  To bridge the gap, I started using an unlocked Google Nexus One phone with my AT&T sim about a month ago.

After a week or so of fumbling around, I'm was completely weaned from the iPhone.  Clean and sober for over a month now.  No withdrawals.

I really like the Android OS now, especially when traveling.  Gmail integration is much better, maps and navigation are killer, and apps are coming along.  Angry Birds is available, what else would I need?

I don't love the N1 phone though and may switch back to Verizon and get the Samsung Fascinate or the Droid Incredible.  Better phones, better network.
Title: Re: NFFC, so help me...
Post by: ukgimp on November 09, 2010, 02:17:22 PM
is htc based on Android?

I was told it was like a child had tried to copy the iphone and given up part way though?

Android opinions?
Title: Re: NFFC, so help me...
Post by: Rupert on November 09, 2010, 02:39:23 PM
Naw, that was an Appleoid told you that  :)

A friend who is an Appleoid, turned green when he saw the nav on my HTC. It is remarkable. Like being in a helicopter over your route....

Otherwise Very similar in lots of ways.  All the Apps I have work great.  Some say it makes the iphone look a bit dated, but I am the wrong person to comment on it.


It is cheaper.
Title: Re: NFFC, so help me...
Post by: 4Eyes on November 09, 2010, 05:19:12 PM
Walk away chaps - he knows all this already, he is just baiting you.

Fundamentally, they are the same.


Igoring the 'Is Jobs more evil than Google" question, the main difference that decided me is that when you buy an Android phone you can choose the feature set that matters to you.

For example, I wanted a bigger screen and an 8Meg camera - these mattered to me, but may not do to everyone.

Android is more about choice and customisation - iPhone about style/fashion - but far fewer differences than either set of fanbois would like to believe.

I guess the Windows Phone 7 will be fighting with RIM for the corporate and non-committed home user market - still think they may be too late to the show though.
Title: Re: NFFC, so help me...
Post by: bill on November 10, 2010, 09:06:24 AM
Windows Phone 7 had a dismal launch on Monday according to the tech press. I wouldn't know; They don't sell the things in my market. I would be interested to get my hands on one to play around.

I'm going to come back and ask more Android questions when my iPhone contract ends in February or March next year. Japan is just getting going on the Android platform so we're limited to a few models. I liked the looks of the Desire HD though.

How's the music player on the Android? I hate iTunes, but the iPhone is a great media player.
Title: Re: NFFC, so help me...
Post by: Gurtie on November 10, 2010, 09:33:28 AM
I don't know how it performs but our designers are all drooling over the Windows phone interface, which means it must be good because they won't go near anything windows without being forced normally.
Title: Re: NFFC, so help me...
Post by: Rupert on November 10, 2010, 09:41:39 AM
QuoteWalk away chaps - he knows all this already, he is just baiting you.


Colin, you kill joy. Anyway, Rich cannot get a reception on his iphone, he knows he style is shallow :)
Title: Re: NFFC, so help me...
Post by: 4Eyes on November 10, 2010, 10:42:15 AM
QuoteHow's the music player on the Android?

I have a Sony X10, so it comes with Sony's own add-on player - works well enough for me. Sending it through my Bose Acoustimass 5 speakers it sounds as good as any other source I put though there.

There's a raft of media player apps - think most run using the same codecs that are already built in, but you are spoiled for choice with different interfaces and features.

I don't expect there is an noticeable difference between the iPhone and most decent Android phones, but I guess you may find some of the really cheap ones have poorer quality output - not really tried any but the one I have.
Title: Re: NFFC, so help me...
Post by: pmac on November 10, 2010, 05:12:50 PM
WANT - http://www.zagg.com/accessories/zaggmate.php
Title: Re: NFFC, so help me...
Post by: mivox on November 10, 2010, 10:05:55 PM
Quote from: pmac on November 10, 2010, 05:12:50 PM
WANT - http://www.zagg.com/accessories/zaggmate.php

YES. Bookmarked...
Title: Re: NFFC, so help me...
Post by: bill on November 12, 2010, 01:10:40 AM
The Android might be good, but you can't get stuff like this yet: StunPhone http://www.stunfone.com/
Title: Re: NFFC, so help me...
Post by: Rupert on November 12, 2010, 09:12:40 AM
Pah, that nothing to the latest kid on the block:

http://pomegranatephone.com/
Title: Re: NFFC, so help me...
Post by: mick g on November 12, 2010, 09:19:41 AM
ha ha you can even shave and talk at the same time  :)
Title: Re: NFFC, so help me...
Post by: 4Eyes on November 12, 2010, 11:19:04 AM
Read this the other day : http://www.reghardware.com/2010/11/10/replacing_the_iphone/

It is pretty much what I have been thinking for a while now.
(NB. for all you sensitive fanbois - before you 'have an eppy', search and replace 'iPhone' with 'Android phone' - same logic applies)


I know the drive is to have one device that does everything, but it stops making sense at some point.

I want a phone that works really well as a phone, fits in a matchbox, and has a battery life of 2 weeks.
I want a pad that has reasonable size screen AND is small enough to fit in my girly manbag.
I want a camera that actually does a decent job.

... but I need to be able to have them all with me at once without lugging a suitcase around with me.


For me, that will probably end up being good small 'non-smart' phone, 7" to 8" tablet, and the best of the titchy 12meg cameras.

Of course, mainstream will always be the 'one device' compromise - but it isn't the only choice, and the 'alternative' choices will start to look better as more portable tablets are introduced.