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Why We Are Here => Water Cooler => Topic started by: gm66 on May 06, 2020, 03:04:12 PM

Title: An interview with a molecular biologist regarding pharmaceutical corruption.
Post by: gm66 on May 06, 2020, 03:04:12 PM
It's especially interesting due to the highlighting of the past behaviour of some modern players like Fauci.

No tinfoil hats required ;+}

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsi9csLNb-Y&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR1bn-mzcZcmrpbdRUW3oiLnT2QedpCvvvBlLoj4x1_hi13CLCIGWXPLgGc



Title: Re: An interview with a molecular biologist regarding pharmaceutical corruption.
Post by: Mackin USA on May 06, 2020, 04:01:00 PM
YEP

Saw that posted on FB
Title: Re: An interview with a molecular biologist regarding pharmaceutical corruption.
Post by: littleman on May 06, 2020, 07:47:24 PM
>No tinfoil hats required ;+}

I'm not sure about that.

Judy Mikovits is an anti-vaxxer. (https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/scientist-vaccine-jailed/) with some pretty crazy claims.


Honestly, her message is dangerous.  Look at the countries that have had success in containing CV19.  They all did social distancing and required facemasks.  This lady actually is claiming that wearing a mask will make people get CV19.  The USA is primed with anti-science/anti-intelectual nutjobs who just need a little push to disregard public safety.
Title: Re: An interview with a molecular biologist regarding pharmaceutical corruption.
Post by: littleman on May 06, 2020, 07:58:30 PM
Just going to add this here.

Austria Has 90% Drop in Coronavirus Cases After Requiring People to Wear Face Masks (https://www.sciencetimes.com/articles/25410/20200421/austria-90-drop-coronavirus-cases-requiring-people-wear-face-masks.htm)
Title: Re: An interview with a molecular biologist regarding pharmaceutical corruption.
Post by: gm66 on May 07, 2020, 08:11:27 AM
Quote from: littleman on May 06, 2020, 07:47:24 PM
>No tinfoil hats required ;+}

I'm not sure about that.

Judy Mikovits is an anti-vaxxer. (https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/scientist-vaccine-jailed/) with some pretty crazy claims.


Honestly, her message is dangerous.  Look at the countries that have had success in containing CV19.  They all did social distancing and required facemasks.  This lady actually is claiming that wearing a mask will make people get CV19.  The USA is primed with anti-science/anti-intelectual nutjobs who just need a little push to disregard public safety.

If you watch the whole interview you'll find that she's not anti-vaccines, vaccines were her life's work.
Title: Re: An interview with a molecular biologist regarding pharmaceutical corruption.
Post by: Rupert on May 07, 2020, 09:08:41 AM
gone.
Title: Re: An interview with a molecular biologist regarding pharmaceutical corruption.
Post by: gm66 on May 07, 2020, 09:27:34 AM
Quote from: Rupert on May 07, 2020, 09:08:41 AM
gone.

Yup, gone. Youtube practicing soft fascism again.

It was a straight-up, factual interview with nothing about going against CV protocol, just telling her story.

America and free speech, that was a loooooong time ago.
Title: Re: An interview with a molecular biologist regarding pharmaceutical corruption.
Post by: BoL on May 07, 2020, 10:09:04 AM
Google are being extremely aggressive with any content that merely mentions COVID-19.

They kicked our Mojeek app on Google play, citing
Quote"lack reasonable sensitivity towards or capitalize on a natural disaster, atrocity, conflict, death, or other tragic event"

After getting back to them saying we display news results from the exact same sources that Google News does, they re-considered. I'm guessing anything talking about COVID-19 is getting flagged and either automation or someone with a heavy hand is giving content the boot. They re-included us eventually.
Title: Re: An interview with a molecular biologist regarding pharmaceutical corruption.
Post by: gm66 on May 07, 2020, 11:28:52 AM
Quote from: BoL on May 07, 2020, 10:09:04 AM
Google are being extremely aggressive with any content that merely mentions COVID-19.

They kicked our Mojeek app on Google play, citing
Quote"lack reasonable sensitivity towards or capitalize on a natural disaster, atrocity, conflict, death, or other tragic event"

After getting back to them saying we display news results from the exact same sources that Google News does, they re-considered. I'm guessing anything talking about COVID-19 is getting flagged and either automation or someone with a heavy hand is giving content the boot. They re-included us eventually.

Good to know, thanks. I'm glad you got re-included !
Title: Re: An interview with a molecular biologist regarding pharmaceutical corruption.
Post by: Chunkford on May 07, 2020, 12:03:51 PM
Quote from: Rupert on May 07, 2020, 09:08:41 AM
gone.

I think this is it - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DketPWFdJBk
Title: Re: An interview with a molecular biologist regarding pharmaceutical corruption.
Post by: Chunkford on May 07, 2020, 12:04:20 PM
I'm trying to get my head around this - https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/medicare-hospitals-covid-patients/

No wonder there are conflicting views around the place
Title: Re: An interview with a molecular biologist regarding pharmaceutical corruption.
Post by: nffc on May 07, 2020, 01:18:34 PM
Quote from: Chunkford on May 07, 2020, 12:04:20 PM
I'm trying to get my head around this - https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/medicare-hospitals-covid-patients/

No wonder there are conflicting views around the place

Don't know about the specifics of that but for sure of course hospitals understand the more work they do the more money they get. The real question is do they let that influence the treatment they do. Of course.
Title: Re: An interview with a molecular biologist regarding pharmaceutical corruption.
Post by: gm66 on May 11, 2020, 07:23:30 PM
I did some digging on the doctor i mentioned in the OP and she hasn't published a single paper to do with anything she mentioned!

She also claimed to have been part of the team that 'taught' Ebola how to infect people (oh what a proud day that must have been!?), but i found a fair few cases of Human Ebola before the dates she mentioned.

I miss the days when experts were experts and weren't marketing their books, but i particularly miss them telling the truth!
Title: Re: An interview with a molecular biologist regarding pharmaceutical corruption.
Post by: BoL on May 18, 2020, 08:35:36 AM
More of the same from Google

https://reclaimthenet.org/google-play-suspends-podcast-addict/
Quote
One of the most popular podcast players on the Google Play store, Podcast Addict, has been suspended on the grounds that some of the podcasts it indexes reference the coronavirus but aren't approved by government entities or public health organizations.
...
In order to get the app restored, Google is asking Guillemane to remove references to COVID-19 and keywords related to COVID-19 from the app.


https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23219427
Title: Re: An interview with a molecular biologist regarding pharmaceutical corruption.
Post by: ergophobe on May 18, 2020, 07:55:13 PM
Quote from: nffc on May 07, 2020, 01:18:34 PM
Quote from: Chunkford on May 07, 2020, 12:04:20 PM
I'm trying to get my head around this - https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/medicare-hospitals-covid-patients/

No wonder there are conflicting views around the place

Don't know about the specifics of that but for sure of course hospitals understand the more work they do the more money they get. The real question is do they let that influence the treatment they do. Of course.

Yes, that is a problem with the fee-for-service model in the US. But remember, almost any condition that puts you in the ICU in the US is likely to get billed at $30,000/day or more. It was more than that 15 years ago after my wife had an accident, and she was not on a ventilator or subject to any extreme measures, just hooked up to a lot of monitors and with one nurse split with one other patient 24 hours per day. So I'm not surprised at all by those numbers for a Covid diagnosis with ventilator support.

A friend who is an anesthesiologist told me that as a result of Covid they were looking at bankruptcy in 6 months if the hospital stayed on a full-time Covid footing. Why? Because Medicare reimbursements, but in particular Medicaid reimbursements, are at a much lower rate than private insurance and the real money that makes their practice run is private insurance paying for non-urgent surgeries.

When the Medicaid For All proposal gained a lot of traction, they had a study done to see what would happen if all their patients paid at Medicaid rates. The answer was that if they did not reduce salaries of receptionists, nurses, etc, the physicians would earn $15/hr as their best guess.

Mayo Clinic is facing a three billion dollar loss as a result of Covid 19.
https://www.twincities.com/2020/04/10/facing-3b-loss-mayo-clinic-announces-payroll-spending-cuts-for-remainder-of-2020/

As far as I can tell from what I read and what I hear from doctor friends, the big effect of Covid is not a financial bonanza, but a major financial stress many parts of the US healthcare system.

The cynical side of me is thinking, however, that the AMA is getting their comeuppance for opposing healthcare reform for 40 years and we, as a nation, are getting our comeuppance for allowing the corporatization of hospitals. But that's for another day. And, within the utterly screwed up system we've built for ourselves in the US, this is going to take a big chunk out of healthcare revenue.
Title: Re: An interview with a molecular biologist regarding pharmaceutical corruption.
Post by: gm66 on May 23, 2020, 12:53:46 AM
I'm listing my thoughts here, i don't think they are resounding truths.

The problem is, is that we all believe governments want the best for us, the timeline of legislation proves otherwise.

They don't want the best for us, currency talks so, perfectly logically, big business now 'guides' government and they happen to want the most efficient version of a civilian, according to their model, not a natural human, but a perfect worker.

We really are the slowly-boiled frogs, or toads, or who cares as long as they're docile.

I'm neither a capitalist nor a communist but my life has been capitalism, and it is a system that eats it's own tail in it's current version, i'm getting grandiose now, it's the wine, but we do eat our own tails.

Stoping ranting now, the wine is taking over the fingers!
Title: Re: An interview with a molecular biologist regarding pharmaceutical corruption.
Post by: ergophobe on September 18, 2020, 07:16:41 PM
>>we all believe governments want the best for us

I would say that view would not be common in the US