My gf's sisters mum-in-law went into hospital due to having pain in her legs, shes 70+, the first thing they did was to test her for COVID and she was negative. Testing to do with her symptoms revealed that she was riddled with cancer, so she had to stay in hospital for further tests then hopefully treatment.
They re-test all patients who are staying in hospital weekly for COVID (this is the Leicester Royal Infirmary in the UK), so when she had her second test, bear in mind the first was negative then she spent 1 week in hospital, she tested positive, the hospital admitted that she caught it in the hospital.
They then gave her 48 hours to live, and SENT HER HOME to die!
Now two family members that were trying to look after her at home have caught COVID and the Mother passed away yesterday morning.
I cannot believe the hospital sending her home with it, has anyone else heard of this happening ?
I'm so sorry to hear that.
As for the last question, I believe that accounted for a lot of the problems in long-term care facilities. To keep the load off hospitals, they were sending people back. I thought they had learned from that debacle.
Sorry to hear.
> the hospital admitted that she caught it in the hospital.
An estimated 30% of covid infections are sourced from medical facilities. My advice to others has been stay away from doctors and clinics if even remotely possible. My nephrologist wanted me at the clinic for an in-person exam tomorrow. I told him no way! Actually, Louise told him that. I wanted to tell him 'Are you fucking crazy!?!'
Thanks both, i didn't know about the 30% statistic, infuriating.
>infuriating
Yes it is. I'm sorry that happened.
My father has had quite the struggle avoiding going into the hospital for tests and blood work. They went so far as held his insulin prisoner to try to get him to come in.
>30%
If you think about it, care homes (nursing homes in the US) would impact that percentage quite heavily, as would 'frontline' nurses & doctors exposed in the hospitals.
"My father has had quite the struggle avoiding going into the hospital for tests and blood work. They went so far as held his insulin prisoner to try to get him to come in."
That's shocking, but i suppose they feel they are acting in his best interest :/ Which type of diabetes is it ?
"If you think about it, care homes (nursing homes in the US) would impact that percentage quite heavily, as would 'frontline' nurses & doctors exposed in the hospitals."
Yes, makes sense.
This virus seems to exploit every weak seam it can find once it's invaded your body.
Type II
My dad has pretty much all the chronic conditions of metabolic syndrome.
>nursing homes
Think this has been the worst hit areas here. At least in Denmark and especially in Sweden it's taking it's toll on the seniors. We just had a case this morning with a nursing home, seniors, employees and a school hit very hard. However it's getting better and better everyday in general.
Quote from: littleman on June 16, 2020, 12:49:04 AM
Type II
My dad has pretty much all the chronic conditions of metabolic syndrome.
There's been a fair amount of success treating type 2 with diet and exercise has he tried that ?
So this COVID story now gets worse.
Lucy and i went to see her sister and her husband after hearing of the Mum's death, her sister and her husband have had no contact with the Mum, only chatting through a window of the room the Mum was in with way more than 6ft distance, not entering the house, or so they told us, but today we find out the husband has tested positive. So now Lucy, her Dad and i have to go and get tested.
I'm incensed now and kicking myself too because i was in two minds about visiting her sister, the in-laws haven't shown a great deal of intelligence in dealing with COVID so far.
I'm not so worried about Lucy and i but we're worried about her Dad of course.
Test results take 24 hours.
That's very sad news for you and your family and hopefully you can find some satisfactory answers on the circumstances.
Thanks BoL.
So Lucy, her Dad and i went to get tested. They have set up multiple temporary buildings in a large car park, you can either queue up to get tested or do it yourself, so we opted for the latter.
The first thing you see is a large sign telling you to keep your windows closed. We were then directed to one of the buildings, where one of the workers (all of whom are in masks and gloves) held up a series of signs for us to read through the car window, just informing you of the protocol. The only odd thing about the protocol was this (verbatim) :
"Do not film us or we will not let you get tested"
Nothing about 'do not film others', just don't film the staff.
The last sign said "Call this number", you call the number and it's the mobile of one of the workers in the building who then has you open one car window only 2 inches so that he can drop 3 test kits through the gap.
The test is a bit uncomfortable, you have to swab your nostril, which is fine, and your tonsils, which triggers the gag reflex, for 10 seconds each.
So the protocol is very strict, which is good, but the instructions for using the test kit didn't correspond to the kit, the instructions told you to put a barcode on the test vial, which already had a barcode on it, and on another bag, which also already had a barcode on it. I wouldn't like to be older and a bit confused and have to do it, but you can always wait in the queue and have the workers test you.
I opted for the self-test for us all because, even though the workers told me when i asked that they change their gloves after every swab, i just wanted to minimise risk for us all.
Should have results by lunchtime tomorrow.
I forgot to say, they were also photographing every car's reg plate.
>diet and exercise
Some people are unable to control themselves even when their lives are on the line.
Back to your topic. Wow, that is really sad and frightening. CV-19 is extremely contagious, I am guessing that it must have been air born and the relatively closed space was enough for transmission. Everything I've read seems to indicate that it is nearly impossible to not spread within a house once one person is infected. I hope you and Lucy are negative.
Results?
I missed this Gary. very sad.
Are you clear?
Thanks, yes results at 6 this morning, all clear, PHEW!
The two people that were looking after the Mum, one is in her early 20s and is displaying no symptoms at all, the other is late 40s and just feels 'a bit fluey', the man who caught it is 51 and has had nausea, headaches and aching muscles but only for a couple of days and is out of bed already (but still staying in one room in the house until clear).
We're just mystified as to how the man caught it, we thought he may have been tempted to give his Mum one last hug (who wouldn't be tempted!) but he swears he didn't.
So now we're tracking his movements and contacts over the past week or so and asking them all to get tested, someone he was near obviously has it.
> mystified as to how the man caught it
Same going on here:
Cuomo: Most new NY coronavirus hospitalizations are from people who stayed home
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/06/ny-gov-cuomo-says-its-shocking-most-new-coronavirus-hospitalizations-are-people-staying-home.html
Restaurants & bars are turning out to be big spreaders here. I also suspect incoming mail, deliveries, and groceries.
I think we've been in the 2nd spike since the 2nd week of May. Going by JHU data it was clear a month ago that it was on the up again.
All the reliable experts are saying this is not a 2nd wave. Reopening just caught, boosted, and extended the 1st wave. That, AND, it has now filtered out into the countryside from the earlier, easy-to-transmit urban areas.
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>mail & groceries
Nobody wants to believe their deliveries are potentially contaminated because that adds a shitload of work to staying isolated.
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China finds heavy coronavirus traces in seafood, meat sections of Beijing food market - Reuters
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-china-seafood/china-finds-heavy-coronavirus-traces-in-seafood-meat-sections-of-beijing-food-market-idUSKBN23P20T
Quote from: rcjordan on June 18, 2020, 02:41:32 PM
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China finds heavy coronavirus traces in seafood, meat sections of Beijing food market - Reuters
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-china-seafood/china-finds-heavy-coronavirus-traces-in-seafood-meat-sections-of-beijing-food-market-idUSKBN23P20T
I love the advert for Fresh Scotch Beef half way down the article, product placement.