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Why We Are Here => Hardware & Technology => Topic started by: Drastic on July 01, 2021, 11:28:02 AM

Title: Windows 11: TPMs and Digital Sovereignty
Post by: Drastic on July 01, 2021, 11:28:02 AM
It seems ms is requiring hardware for win11 for drm purposes.
https://secret.club/2021/06/28/windows11-tpms.html
Title: Re: Windows 11: TPMs and Digital Sovereignty
Post by: rcjordan on July 01, 2021, 02:09:52 PM
Thanks.  About 8-1- months ago, I started getting a pop-up when booting Win 10 Quickbooks (2016 ver) that says QB now wanted a TPM. I ignore it and QB still works ok.
Title: Re: Windows 11: TPMs and Digital Sovereignty
Post by: ergophobe on July 01, 2021, 05:38:42 PM
Does this just make Windows more like the Apple OS, in that it becomes less open and more controlled by the manufacturer? Or is it worse?

BTW

For Security, How Bad are TPMs and How Good is the Apple T2 Chip?
https://medium.com/asecuritysite-when-bob-met-alice/for-security-how-bad-are-tpms-and-how-good-is-the-apple-t2-chip-a561bda34e6

Professor Buchanan, OBE, says that the Apple security model with the T2 chip is way better than the TPM model. My question is whether it is fundamentally different in terms of privacy and control.
Title: Re: Windows 11: TPMs and Digital Sovereignty
Post by: Drastic on July 02, 2021, 01:22:21 PM
>Does this just make Windows more like the Apple OS, in that it becomes less open and more controlled by the manufacturer?

This, plus it can give every third party vendor a built-in drm platform for digital media.

I see some Linux in my future.
Title: Re: Windows 11: TPMs and Digital Sovereignty
Post by: rcjordan on July 02, 2021, 01:51:01 PM
>I see some Linux in my future.

I was thinking the same, though I'll need to keep one air-gaped Win machine for Quickbooks (which I use local-only --no cloud, no support-- and may stop upgrading).

I'm also fairly comfortable with my gutted, heavily fortified chromebook.  I absolutely never see any indication that any 3rd parties are using any tracking data.