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Why We Are Here => Water Cooler => Topic started by: buckworks on October 27, 2021, 09:48:37 AM

Title: Maybe answer your phone if you're lost?
Post by: buckworks on October 27, 2021, 09:48:37 AM
This one's for you, Ergophobe!

QuoteA lost Colorado hiker who was gone for 24 hours ignored rescuers' calls because the hiker didn't recognize the phone number, officials say
https://www.insider.com/hiker-lost-for-day-ignored-calls-because-of-unrecognized-number-2021-10
Title: Re: Maybe answer your phone if you're lost?
Post by: Drastic on October 27, 2021, 01:40:04 PM
So I take it they didn't leave a voicemail or try sending a text. Seems like an incomplete story. If I'm lost but figuring it out on my own, I probably wouldn't answer either.

The problem is we've let the giant, rich telecoms get away with not fixing spam calls.
Title: Re: Maybe answer your phone if you're lost?
Post by: rcjordan on October 27, 2021, 02:00:39 PM
Probably had the phone set to ring on "Contact List Only."
Title: Re: Maybe answer your phone if you're lost?
Post by: ergophobe on October 27, 2021, 04:35:04 PM
That's funny. I wonder who called in the rescue and if the hiker had any clue that someone might do that.

>>If I'm lost but figuring it out on my own, I probably wouldn't answer either.

That was my first thought, *assuming* I had not left an itinerary with someone. In my younger days, I used to always add one day to every itinerary. If I planned on being out for a dayhike, I would say not to call for a rescue until the following day. Now that I'm married, that is not acceptable protocol.

Related, some years ago, a person got slightly off trail, decided she was lost and sat down to wait for rescue. She was apparently only about 200 yards from the trail and, if she had a map would have known that she was in a triangle defined by three trails, all less than a half mile away and also less than a half mile from the river that she was following. Ten minutes of walking in *any* direction would have gotten her to a trail. She had learned that if you're lost you should stay put, so she did. For three or four days.

When I was a ranger, people were not infrequently (a few times a month) asking to start a search because their son was overdue.

Q. How long has he been lost?
A. Two hours.
Q. How old is he?
A. Thirty five.

>>not fixing spam calls

Don't go asking people to examine root causes. People hate that.
Title: Re: Maybe answer your phone if you're lost?
Post by: ergophobe on October 27, 2021, 04:43:08 PM
PS - I shared this with a close friend who has long been involved in S&R, teaches swiftwater rescue to park service and wrote a book about how to interact with family/friends during and after a search or rescue.

When Accidents Happen: Managing Crisis Communication as a Family Liaison Officer


His immediate response was much like ours: "i think the story is abit skewed although funny. He ended up self rescuing and the SAR team never texted him?"