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Why We Are Here => Economics & Investing => Topic started by: Brad on August 24, 2022, 01:36:16 PM

Title: Germany Starts Hydrogen Train Line.
Post by: Brad on August 24, 2022, 01:36:16 PM
QuoteWhy not just electrify the line?
Most major rail lines in Europe and Germany are being converted to run using electricity.

However, on less-used local lines, the high costs of electrification cannot always be justified. These costs can become particularly prohibitive if obstacles like tunnels and bridges require alterations to allow for clearance. Electrifying train tracks requires either a third line, uncommon on more rural routes, or overhead cables.

https://www.dw.com/en/german-train-line-switching-fully-to-hydrogen/a-62907198
Title: Re: Germany Starts Hydrogen Train Line.
Post by: rcjordan on August 24, 2022, 01:43:41 PM
>Electrifying train tracks requires either a third line

Damn, we're already killing plenty on railroad crossings WITH signals & gates.  We'd need automated, refrigerated morgue cars picking up bodies lying along the tracks if we had a 3rd rail.

>trains > hydrogen

They've been reading th3core.
Title: Re: Germany Starts Hydrogen Train Line.
Post by: littleman on August 25, 2022, 01:10:23 AM
>They've been reading th3core.

It makes sense to me.  They could make the hydrogen on site and pump it into a tank on the trains, just bypass the third rail all together.
Title: Re: Germany Starts Hydrogen Train Line.
Post by: buckworks on August 25, 2022, 01:17:42 AM

Canada signs non-binding agreement with Germany to export hydrogen to Europe by 2025

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-canada-signs-deal-with-germany-to-export-hydrogen-to-europe-by-2025/
Title: Re: Germany Starts Hydrogen Train Line.
Post by: Brad on August 25, 2022, 09:25:34 AM
Third rain is a non-starter.  As RC says the human body count would be too high not to mention the wildlife getting fried trying to cross the tracks.

Overhead wires have their own problems: icing in the winter and excessive sag when it's really hot.

I can see hydrogen powered trains being useful in the US and Canada.

> Canada agreement

I was wondering if there was a connection.
Title: Re: Germany Starts Hydrogen Train Line.
Post by: rcjordan on September 05, 2022, 05:17:02 PM
In service now.

The first fully hydrogen-powered passenger train service is now running in Germany
https://www.engadget.com/the-first-hydrogen-powered-train-line-is-now-in-service-142028596.html