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Why We Are Here => Traffic => Topic started by: dogboy on June 02, 2011, 05:16:36 PM

Title: twiends.com - you like my real site, and I like you back from a useless profile
Post by: dogboy on June 02, 2011, 05:16:36 PM
http://www.twiends.com/

You can...
Grow your twitter community
Grow your facebook fans
Grow your youtube viewings
Select a country focus and interests

...despite what it says, I think this is a place that just inflates fan counts. Lots of bogus accounts that do nothing but 'like' and follow things.
Title: Re: twiends.com - you like my real site, and I like you back from a useless profile
Post by: littleman on June 02, 2011, 06:30:25 PM
Is there any payoff to having a bunch of bogus "likes"?  Does it influence anything inside FB to push more eyeballs to your page?
Title: Re: twiends.com - you like my real site, and I like you back from a useless profile
Post by: dogboy on June 02, 2011, 08:04:34 PM
I don't really know.  I do know if I search on a subject for a page in FB, I usually click on the one that has the most fans... and due to many reasons, these tend to be near the top of the FB SERPs.

IMO it is a kw/SEO self fulfilling prophecy thing, and there are a number of positive feedback cycles at play here, that all work together, to create black holes in the SERPs for popular terms.

So the question is then how do you get the ball rolling? Probably not at a 'trade a like' farm.  But maybe once you get a few thousand under your belt, newcomers are more likely to cast their vote in the same direction(?)
Title: Re: twiends.com - you like my real site, and I like you back from a useless profile
Post by: DrCool on June 02, 2011, 08:44:59 PM
I could see a bunch of fake likes being valuable in that when someone goes to your page and sees a few thousand likes they will want to be part of it. They probably will never take the time to see who the likes are from but if they had a choice of liking a page with 2000 likes vs. one with 20 they would probably choose the 2000. Yeah, the number would be pretty meaningless but it could lend some legitimacy to a page.
Title: Re: twiends.com - you like my real site, and I like you back from a useless profile
Post by: edo on June 03, 2011, 12:15:50 AM
Used Twiends in the past and it's good for inflating numbers if that's all you want.

Follow the crowd etc does have an effect in my view, although Twiends is a much stronger service for Twitter (where you pretty much have to stop people following you by offering bugger all credits and making the "follow" restrictions super tight) rather than Fbook (where you have to beg them [in terms of credits offered] to like you).

Ed
Title: Re: twiends.com - you like my real site, and I like you back from a useless profile
Post by: Rooftop on June 03, 2011, 09:34:49 AM
I've used twiends a fair bit after someone suggested it here.

Main purpose for me is to stop accounts looking crap and unloved before they are linked from a site.  It breaks you out of that chicken/egg situation of not wanting to put a fb/tw badge on the site because no-one is following, and not having followers because no one knows it is there.

I've only gone to 500 or so twiends followers on each account.  No benefit seen though apart from the above. 

One observation though: Far fewer fake/empty accounts as followers than I imagined.  However it creates a massive footprint on new accounts if you are not careful - as you tend to end up with all the same followers as every other person using the same tactic.
Title: Re: twiends.com - you like my real site, and I like you back from a useless profile
Post by: anallawalla on June 03, 2011, 10:27:16 AM
Given that some Google patents use follower analysis for forums, the quality of FB followers will come under the microscope, if it hasn't already.
Title: Re: twiends.com - you like my real site, and I like you back from a useless profile
Post by: dogboy on June 03, 2011, 11:00:50 AM
>google figuring something out
I've heard people say that before... I wasn't talking about liking a website in particular, I was talking more about Facebook pages and apps (the facebook world).

So the idea some of you are bringing is that there might be a way to get a lot of likes, get better ranks in google, get more traffic overall. Funny but I would think maybe google would give likes a little tiny boost ...but not map out all the spammers on Facebook. Seems like that's a job for Facebook. Lots of resources would be spent trying to map relationships in the dark. If I were google, I'd bury any and all Facebook listings out of my SERPS before I ever tried to manage spammers in a social network.

But I don't know, that's why I'm exploring this area...
Title: Re: twiends.com - you like my real site, and I like you back from a useless profile
Post by: dogboy on June 03, 2011, 01:35:22 PM
re: google

Now that +1 is out, you better believe they'll have their hands full with all the strange stuff SEOs are going to try and pull:)