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Why We Are Here => Water Cooler => Topic started by: grnidone on June 08, 2011, 05:16:45 PM

Title: German Farmers getting hit hard with e-coli scare...
Post by: grnidone on June 08, 2011, 05:16:45 PM
Anyone in Germany?  I feel for these people...

http://www.spiegel.de/international/business/0,1518,766910,00.html

QuoteDue to the E. coli crisis, the vegetable grower is now losing €250,000 ($365,000) -- each day.

Shit almighty.  I can't even imagine.  Any of you Euro folk being affected by this?  (As in, have you stopped eating raw veggies?)

Title: Re: German Farmers getting hit hard with e-coli scare...
Post by: Rumbas on June 08, 2011, 09:07:45 PM
It has been a horrible hit on our local cucumber farmers. NObody wanted to buy their crop at all.
Title: Re: German Farmers getting hit hard with e-coli scare...
Post by: Zwart on June 08, 2011, 11:04:37 PM
As they've now ruled out cucumbers, tomatoes, lettuce and bean sprouts as the most likely culprits, those may well be the only things one can safely eat  :P
Title: Re: German Farmers getting hit hard with e-coli scare...
Post by: Rooftop on June 09, 2011, 12:53:46 PM
Germany has always been front of the queue to increase panic when other countries have a food safety issue (usually fighting to be first with France and Spain to be honest).  It's not nice when any producers are affected, however it does feel somewhat more Karmic when it is happening in Germany.

Strangely this is sort of a specialist topic of mine.  Honestly - I have a long list of qualifications relating to things that make you shit yourself.
Title: Re: German Farmers getting hit hard with e-coli scare...
Post by: grnidone on June 09, 2011, 09:45:32 PM
Here in Kansas, the worst that can really happen is a hail storm the week before wheat harvest.  That'll take out a crop, but only this years crop. 

People are much more fickle, and I have to wonder when and IF they will feel safe eating any raw vegetables...

This could hurt these farmers for much longer after the gov says its OK to eat vegetables again.
Title: Re: German Farmers getting hit hard with e-coli scare...
Post by: Gurtie on June 10, 2011, 08:33:43 AM
honestly, here in the UK I don't think anyone's stopped eating raw veg. Sure some people must have but aside from a few bits of dark humour at lunchtime its pretty much business as usual when the food hits the supermarket shelves I think. In Germany it may be very different but this doesn't seem to be a mad-cow style scenario with years of impact to come

I think spain got hit during peak export period (?) and its not exactly financial fun for them right now anyway, but more Northern European farming probably has bigger problems coming from lack of rain this year than from e-coli :(
Title: Re: German Farmers getting hit hard with e-coli scare...
Post by: Rooftop on June 10, 2011, 08:45:14 AM
Quote from: JasonD on June 09, 2011, 12:55:04 PM
>Strangely this is sort of a specialist topic of mine.  Honestly - I have a long list of qualifications relating to things that make you sh## yourself.

Are you honestly a poo doctor?

I wish... I would have it printed in exactly that form on my business cards.

Pre-web I used to teach food safety (and a few other things) in hotels & nursing homes.  Did food safety consultancy as well.  More in poo-prevention than poo-mop-up.   

I'll be honest - there aren't that many transferrable skills to what I do now.  In fact the first opportunity there was I missed when you registered that domain!
Title: Re: German Farmers getting hit hard with e-coli scare...
Post by: Rooftop on June 10, 2011, 11:33:20 AM
Weirdly poo.tv is really tempting. 
Title: Re: German Farmers getting hit hard with e-coli scare...
Post by: Zwart on June 10, 2011, 06:29:54 PM
Still don't believe that  ::) altho I (accidentally) left the bean sprouts out of my homemade soup tonight.
Title: Re: German Farmers getting hit hard with e-coli scare...
Post by: Rooftop on June 16, 2011, 12:10:53 PM
Not a food that comes immediately to mind are they?

With e.coli infection only really comes from one source: contact with poo (human or animal).  Not nice to think about, but in itself that is pretty common is a surprisingly wide range of food.

The risk with beansprouts comes from the combination of the growing temps you mentioned (wasn't aware of that), it being a high protein food and then being comsumed with little or no cooking.  Great environment for growth and then bugger all chance of rendering it safe again prior to consumption. 

The faecal contamination part is one of the increased risks of organic food
Title: Re: German Farmers getting hit hard with e-coli scare...
Post by: Rupert on June 16, 2011, 01:39:11 PM
QuoteThe faecal contamination part is one of the increased risks of organic food

Interesting link.  Is that because Organic generally means smaller units and so more likely they use the septic tank to help it grow?
Title: Re: German Farmers getting hit hard with e-coli scare...
Post by: Rupert on June 16, 2011, 05:55:26 PM
You dont see what is put on the fields round here sometimes.... :-X
Title: Re: German Farmers getting hit hard with e-coli scare...
Post by: 4Eyes on June 17, 2011, 12:18:19 PM
yeah - but also everyone knows that the hippies who grow beansprouts don't wash their hands often enough......... probably