High-Carbohydrate, Low-Fat Diet on Type 2 Diabetes and Nonalcoholic Fatty Liver Disease: A Randomized Controlled Trial: Annals of Internal Medicine: Vol 0, No 0
https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M22-1787
My first thought is they are measuring the wrong things. There are too many other variables. I speak not with knowledge exactly, but what I am currently learning from Tom Spector's trials.
I am not surprised by the result, but suspect it has more to do with the way the carbs are presented than anything else.
From Sues Zoe study, we have discovered her body absorbs calories differently, depending on how it is presented to the body. (E.g. highly processed to not processed)
(Blood sugar monitor on for 2 weeks etc etc. The program leads you down this path testing different foods and different exercise timing. Exercise in this case is a short walk)
So if the carbs are presented as processed, and they likely are, then the body will likely put it straight down as fat.
>carbs are presented as processed, and they likely are, then the body will likely put it straight down as fat.
I agree with that assessment. I'm seeing a fair number of studies that are focusing on the negatives of processed foods -particularly ultra-processed foods. The end result seems to be the more processed, the more obesity.'
>Conclusion: the changes were not sustained 3 months after intervention
That's not unexpected, either. Like quitting smoking, everybody I know -including me- who were ultimately successful with a low-carb diet failed to maintain the diet over the long term on the first tries. The sirens' song of restaurant & fast food lifestyle is hard to overcome.
QuoteThe sirens' song of restaurant & fast food lifestyle is hard to overcome.
Sugar craving. I get it.
listened to this one today.:
https://joinzoe.com/learn/podcast-how-your-gut-can-change-your-mind
After your thread here RC, this is next :
https://joinzoe.com/learn/podcast-processed-foods
from your post in another thread;
>And we need to eat more nuts and less wheat it seems.......
Oddly enough, when I first started trying to navigate the many severe restrictions of a kidney failure diet and was spending hours reading nutrition labels in the grocery store, I kept ending up in the Southwestern Foods section --and I don't much care for many SW foods. Then it hit me, SW foods leaned heavily toward being corn-based while the bulk of our other grocery items are wheat-based (very often ultra-processed). I also discovered that the leavening agents in US-favorite fluffy white bread were part of the need for my diet restrictions.
>nuts
Peanuts & peanut butter are touted by nutritionists and the kidney diet as 'safe' protein. In fact, we're told to use it as an emergency food during hurricanes, etc.
OK Interesting. Someone told me wheat is the most successful life on the planet.
Do you have many walnuts, almonds, brazils, cashews, hazel etc?
>discovered her body absorbs calories differently
>Processed vs. not processed
Glycemic index is a great resource, too.
>nuts
Interesting. Do you have to limit oxalate consumption at all?
>Do you have many walnuts, almonds, brazils, cashews, hazel etc?
Most 'common' nuts have some nutrients that are negative for kidneys and many are salted (sodium is a top no-no), but I do still eat a fair amount of walnuts. I eat handfuls of honey-roasted peanuts almost daily.
Association Between Frequency of Eating Away-From-Home Meals and Risk of All-Cause and Cause-Specific Mortality
https://www.jandonline.org/article/S2212-2672(21)00059-9/fulltext
It goes way beyond calories, fats, & salt. Restaurants use massively pre-processed foods for a start, then they douse their foods with chemicals & additives to increase shelf life and and appearance (phosphorous is used big-time). This is the underlying reason that kidney patients have big problems because of eating out. Grocery stores also spray meats & produce for the same reasons.
Americans Are Addicted to 'Ultra-Processed' Foods, and It's Killing Us
https://www.newsweek.com/2021/12/17/americans-are-addicted-ultra-processed-foods-its-killing-us-1656977.html
"Lab-made creations such as chips, hot dogs, enriched bagels and American cheese have been a staple of the American diet since the 1980s. In recent years, however, the varieties of these foods have multiplied on store shelves and in fast-food restaurants. In 2017 and 2018, they accounted for 57 percent of the calories consumed by the average American—up from 54 percent in 2001 and 2002, according to one study."
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The above Newsweek article is worth a read. Be sure to read the results of Hall's research.
QuoteAssociation Between Frequency of Eating Away-From-Home Meals and Risk of All-Cause and Cause-Specific Mortality
https://www.jandonline.org/article/S2212-2672(21)00059-9/fulltext
That was a big study.
I have a cousin with severe Crohns. She has to have a very processed diet. for easy absorption. However, her overall inflammation seems to be getting worse in other parts of her body.
It seems like the current research is only just scratching the surface.
>current research is only just scratching the surface.
...And it appears that most of that research is being waylaid by Big Tobacco (now Big Food) lobbyists.
50 Years Ago, Sugar Industry Quietly Paid Scientists To Point Blame At Fat : NPR
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/09/13/493739074/50-years-ago-sugar-industry-quietly-paid-scientists-to-point-blame-at-fat
High-protein diet prevents fat mass increase after dieting by counteracting Lactobacillus-enhanced lipid absorption | Nature Metabolism
Diets that involve intermittent fasting can help with weight loss — but returning to normal eating habits often means regaining shed pounds. Scientists now have an explanation for this: short-term fasting alters the composition of gut microbes, which, in turn, changes the way the body absorbs fat
https://www.nature.com/articles/s42255-022-00687-6
>Do you have to limit oxalate consumption at all?
Good question. I had to research oxalates a bit. The answer is 'No, we are not warned about oxalates directly.' But, as it turns out, almost all the common oxalates are high in nutrients that we are told to limit or avoid.
https://www.webmd.com/diet/foods-high-in-oxalates
Quote from: Travoli on December 14, 2022, 06:56:08 PM
Glycemic index is a great resource, too.
Just got round to looking that up. Thx.
>wheat
"Half of the wheat intended for human food in Europe contained DON, while in the United Kingdom, 70 percent was contaminated. However, 95 percent met the safety limits for DON concentration."
Scientists expose the scale of mycotoxins in wheat problem | Food Safety News
https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2022/12/scientists-expose-scale-of-mycotoxins-in-wheat-problem/
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...and cut back on the bacon.
'Too much' nitrite-cured meat brings clear risk of cancer, say scientists | Cancer | The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/dec/27/too-much-nitrite-cured-meat-brings-clear-risk-of-cancer-say-scientists
I struggle with that Bacon comment.... :P love it sooo much.