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Why We Are Here => Water Cooler => Topic started by: rcjordan on April 09, 2023, 06:09:56 PM

Title: (proposed) new EPA rule forces up to 60% of new US car sales to be EVs in 7 yrs
Post by: rcjordan on April 09, 2023, 06:09:56 PM
Better get hustlin' on bulking up that grid!

https://electrek.co/2023/04/08/epa-rule-60-percent-new-us-car-sales-ev-7-years/
Title: Re: (proposed) new EPA rule forces up to 60% of new US car sales to be EVs in 7 yrs
Post by: littleman on April 09, 2023, 08:13:06 PM
I think subsidies are a lot better than forcing.  Take all the oil subsidies and throw them to domestic* EV production, put a good amount of the production in oil/coal country to get the red states behind it.  Then market the thing as energy independence and job creation.   Add to that tax credit for solar installation and you have a pretty good motivation to get people going EV.

*Tapping into the wave of nationalism couldn't hurt.
Title: Re: (proposed) new EPA rule forces up to 60% of new US car sales to be EVs in 7 yrs
Post by: rcjordan on April 09, 2023, 09:40:17 PM
>>get hustlin' on bulking up that grid!

We getting there with the grid.  And it'll take years to phase in the EPA mandates. But there's a good chance we're not going to have the grid in place to supply the demand.


>Electric Truck Stops Will Need as Much Power as a Small Town (bloomberg.com)

>demands of a truck stop. Over 30MW peak power is jaw dropping.

http://th3core.com/talk/water-coolerextra/ev-tidbits/msg80905/#msg80905
Title: Re: (proposed) new EPA rule forces up to 60% of new US car sales to be EVs in 7 yrs
Post by: ergophobe on April 10, 2023, 03:17:44 PM
>> not going to have the grid in place to supply the demand.

That's the conclusion I'm coming to as well.

I think the subsidies need to be more focused toward infrastructure, otherwise people are going to rebel against the EV mandate as they start to face massive charging lines.
Title: Re: (proposed) new EPA rule forces up to 60% of new US car sales to be EVs in 7 yrs
Post by: rcjordan on April 11, 2023, 03:26:03 PM
Automakers Face Test in Reaching U.S. Target for Electric Vehicles - The New York Times

New federal rules are expected to speed the transition to E.V.s, a shift that car companies have embraced but will be challenged to carry out.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/04/11/business/energy-environment/cars-electric-vehicles-epa.html
Title: Re: (proposed) new EPA rule forces up to 60% of new US car sales to be EVs in 7 yrs
Post by: rcjordan on April 13, 2023, 11:40:08 PM
The US doesn't have enough power lines for its renewables

https://qz.com/the-us-is-laying-new-power-lines-too-slowly-for-its-ren-1850326951