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Title: Segway makes more affordable robot lawn mower
Post by: Brad on March 19, 2024, 09:31:26 PM
Segway brings a sub-$1,000 smart robot mower to the US

https://www.theverge.com/2024/3/19/24105936/segway-navimow-i-robot-mower-price-release-date-specs
Title: Re: Segway makes more affordable robot lawn mower
Post by: rcjordan on March 19, 2024, 09:36:43 PM
>AI-powered Segway Navimow

>>AI Cheese Grater

hhh
Title: Re: Segway makes more affordable robot lawn mower
Post by: Travoli on March 19, 2024, 09:41:04 PM
Now we're getting somewhere!
Title: Re: Segway makes more affordable robot lawn mower
Post by: rcjordan on March 19, 2024, 09:43:31 PM
<+>

>navigate autonomously without a boundary wire
>app

These are red flags.  So far, the models that tout this are dependent on the manufacturer's cloud and cannot function local-only.  Sooo, if the mfg goes belly-up or withdraws from the mower market, you have a $2-3k lawn ornament.
Title: Re: Segway makes more affordable robot lawn mower
Post by: Brad on March 19, 2024, 10:21:44 PM
>red flags

This is really good to know.  Thanks for the translation RC.
Title: Re: Segway makes more affordable robot lawn mower
Post by: rcjordan on March 20, 2024, 12:19:45 PM
The underlying, fundamental issue is whether the mower mows in straight lines (uses less battery to cover more ground BUT needs more sensors, software, gps, & cpu) or uses an algorithmic pattern to criss-cross the yard until everything is mowed (needs lots of battery, weighs more, sloooow completion of task).

>flags

Do not take those as absolutes. I think it is possible to have an autonomous mower capable of local-only BUT Debbie says that the manufacturers are eyeing that $weet, $weet user data.
Title: Re: Segway makes more affordable robot lawn mower
Post by: Rupert on July 14, 2024, 08:47:48 AM
Here is another:

https://www.kress.com/en-gb/

does work in shaded areas by dead reckoning.
Title: Re: Segway makes more affordable robot lawn mower
Post by: rcjordan on July 14, 2024, 11:13:35 AM
Kress mower page, near the bottom:

Each antenna of our exclusive network covers any number of lawns within an up to 60 km radius area.
Title: Re: Segway makes more affordable robot lawn mower
Post by: grnidone on July 19, 2024, 08:42:12 PM
I am not gonna lie. I'm looking HARD at a robot mower. I hate mowing. Hate it. And paying a ton for it to get it done right now.

The one that would work the best for me is the $11K one. I suppose though, I could just get the little one and just have the mower running all the time and get a certain section of the lawn done every day.
Title: Re: Segway makes more affordable robot lawn mower
Post by: Rupert on July 20, 2024, 05:52:07 AM
Iains Kress is more efficient than the old Husq, as it goes in straight lines, so has a smaller battery.  The old one had the battery replaced, as it did so many hours. He has about 0.75 acres to mow.  The battery was quite expensive when it was replaced..

I think I would have paid out the same in the last 6 years getting someone else to do it. (£3k every 6 years, no more than 10 times a year, £50 per time (Max) once every 2 weeks over less than half the year so 10 times.)

He borrows my mower at the start of every season too :)
Title: Re: Segway makes more affordable robot lawn mower
Post by: rcjordan on July 20, 2024, 06:31:39 PM
Any way I figure it, a bot mower is more expensive than a mowing service.  On top of that, I'm afraid that I'd have to be continuously fiddling with maintenance, clean the blades, checking why it failed to dock, etc.
Title: Re: Segway makes more affordable robot lawn mower
Post by: ergophobe on July 21, 2024, 04:33:33 AM
>>more expensive than a mowing service.

Heretic.
Title: Re: Segway makes more affordable robot lawn mower
Post by: Brad on July 21, 2024, 08:27:53 AM
>mowing service

If you can find one.  Around here the mowing companies all got hit hard with manpower shortages post-covid pandemic and have only partially recovered.  Plus many of the individual, Hispanic yard guys working alone or in pairs that you paid in cash have disappeared.

>more expensive

My gut tells me you are right.  Robot mowers are still expensive compared to a gas mower, the technology is not yet proven for American lawns and I think one would be constantly fiddling with the bot.  I'd also worry about theft or vandalism.