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Title: Elon Musk Uses Cybertruck Explosion to Show Tesla Can Remotely Unlock and Monito
Post by: rcjordan on January 04, 2025, 02:11:58 PM

https://www.404media.co/elon-musk-uses-cybertruck-explosion-to-show-tesla-can-remotely-unlock-and-monitor-vehicles/

"Capabilities used in or justified by extreme circumstances often become commonplace and are used for much more mundane things in the future. And so the remote investigative actions taken by Elon Musk in Wednesday's Cybertruck explosion in Las Vegas are a warning and a reminder that Tesla owners do not actually own their Teslas, and that cars, broadly speaking, are increasingly spying on their owners and the people around them."
Title: Re: Elon Musk Uses Cybertruck Explosion to Show Tesla Can Remotely Unlock and Monito
Post by: Brad on January 04, 2025, 02:50:46 PM
1. Good reason not to  buy a Tesla, it's just creepy.

2. I wonder if a dumb car movement will start?  IOW demand for cars that do not phone home to mothership, have no subscriptions, no tracking.
Title: Re: Elon Musk Uses Cybertruck Explosion to Show Tesla Can Remotely Unlock and Monito
Post by: rcjordan on January 04, 2025, 03:04:42 PM
>dumb car movement will start

I thought I'd already started it (keeping 2010 & 2015 Dodge vans) but I think Travoli has me beat.
Title: Re: Elon Musk Uses Cybertruck Explosion to Show Tesla Can Remotely Unlock and Monito
Post by: Brad on January 04, 2025, 07:26:01 PM
Related:

How to Figure Out What Your Car Knows About You (and Opt Out of Sharing When You Can)

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2024/03/how-figure-out-what-your-car-knows-about-you-and-opt-out-sharing-when-you-can
Title: Re: Elon Musk Uses Cybertruck Explosion to Show Tesla Can Remotely Unlock and Monito
Post by: rcjordan on January 04, 2025, 07:53:05 PM
>How to Figure Out What Your Car Knows About You

Debbie says it is worse than we think   ...more akin to targeted interpolation ala DNA databases (23andMe).  My wife has a too-smart Volvo, one daughter has a late-model Bolt EV, another daughter has a high-end smart SUV.  Given that G, FB, and myriads of other data trackers already know my relations then I will have many of my profile blanks filled in without participating.
Title: Re: Elon Musk Uses Cybertruck Explosion to Show Tesla Can Remotely Unlock and Monito
Post by: Travoli on January 05, 2025, 12:42:22 AM
>I think Travoli has me beat.

Sadly the 2003 Toyota is no more. Replaced with a newer Toyota. This thread is a good reminder to check what it collects, though. I agree with Debbie, probably worse than we think.
Title: Re: Elon Musk Uses Cybertruck Explosion to Show Tesla Can Remotely Unlock and Monito
Post by: ergophobe on January 06, 2025, 12:17:58 AM
While sad to see the 1999 truck go... a modern car does have a lot going for it.

Since my car is almost never parked in a place with cell service, all the fancy stuff you can do remotely is useless to me. So in that respect, I get all the data collection with few benefits. That said, I would give away a lot of data to keep adaptive cruise control (though, yes, of course, I would rather just get the cruise without the data giveaway)