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Why We Are Here => Water Cooler => Topic started by: Brad on February 09, 2025, 12:14:32 PM

Title: Automakers Plan To Build More Cheap Cars Because We're All Poor Now
Post by: Brad on February 09, 2025, 12:14:32 PM
Automakers finally got the memo

https://autos.yahoo.com/automakers-plan-build-more-cheap-152500975.html
Title: Re: Automakers Plan To Build More Cheap Cars Because We're All Poor Now
Post by: rcjordan on February 09, 2025, 05:48:01 PM
FTFY: Automakers Plan To Build More Cheap Hybrids & EVs Because They've Finished Soaking Early Adopters

Everybody knew >$30k just didn't have the mass market automakers & dealers need. 

Nov 2023 | Ergophobe: Electric car inventory grows as sales struggles to keep up
This reminds me of what the finance manager at the dealership mentioned. He said they were finally getting cars they could sell, but for a long time Hyundai was just sending them $60,000 Ioniqs while most customers were looking for a $25,000 Elantra.
https://th3core.com/talk/water-coolerextra/electric-car-inventory-grows-as-sales-struggles-to-keep-up/msg83280/#msg83280
Title: Re: Automakers Plan To Build More Cheap Cars Because We're All Poor Now
Post by: Travoli on February 09, 2025, 09:19:23 PM
Semi-related: Residents of CO can lease new Fiat 500e for free (only pay taxes)

TLDR: CO tax incentives are so good, dealerships can still make money on free leases.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqksxc6m69o
Title: Re: Automakers Plan To Build More Cheap Cars Because We're All Poor Now
Post by: rcjordan on February 09, 2025, 11:34:52 PM
>Fiat 500

When Fiat first introduced the 500 I rented one a couple of times in Orlando.  Colorado would have to pay the taxes before I'd consider it.
Title: Re: Automakers Plan To Build More Cheap Cars Because We're All Poor Now
Post by: ergophobe on February 10, 2025, 02:32:21 AM
A friend of mine owns two Porches and a Fiat 500e. Everyone in the family fights over the 500e. When we visited for a few days, the Porsches never came out of the garage.

Granted, they live in a European city where streets can be narrow and parking difficult, so part of it is they like the convenience of the small size for around town.
Title: Re: Automakers Plan To Build More Cheap Cars Because We're All Poor Now
Post by: Brad on February 10, 2025, 07:42:30 AM
For a car I'm not going to take on long trips, I've grown more fond of simple and cheap.  I think we have mentioned before cars like an original VW Bug or any of the early Japanese cars.  We don't need all the infotainment and tracking stuff.  I also don't want something that looks like a door wedge.  Once upon a time we could make cars with headroom, roomy, cheap and good mileage like the VW Rabbit.  Why is that so hard to do now?
Title: Re: Automakers Plan To Build More Cheap Cars Because We're All Poor Now
Post by: grnidone on February 10, 2025, 09:52:20 PM
I loved my 2010 Toyota Yaris. That little thing sipped gas, and really, it was all I needed for getting groceries etc. I sold it to my friend's kid going to college ONLY because I needed something slightly larger to pull my kayak trailer.
Title: Re: Automakers Plan To Build More Cheap Cars Because We're All Poor Now
Post by: rcjordan on February 10, 2025, 10:09:56 PM
>2010 Toyota Yaris

I looked into the Yaris around 2012. One of our mechanic employees drove the wheels off his.  I ended up buying a used 2010 Honda Fit because it towed on all fours.

>Cheap ev

Take a Yaris or a Fit and slap a battery in it.
Title: Re: Automakers Plan To Build More Cheap Cars Because We're All Poor Now
Post by: littleman on February 11, 2025, 06:34:00 AM
Honestly the Fiat 500e is probably the type of EV I would buy -- light, simple maneuverable and not ugly.  It appeals so much more to me than the EV monsters.