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Why We Are Here => Water Cooler => Topic started by: Brad on July 08, 2026, 06:57:10 PM

Title: America’s cheapest new EV is smaller than a ping-pong table and tops out at 19mp
Post by: Brad on July 08, 2026, 06:57:10 PM
Fiat. $14,000

https://www.theverge.com/transportation/962753/fiat-topolino-ev-us-price-specs-micromobiilty
Title: Re: America’s cheapest new EV is smaller than a ping-pong table and tops out at 19mp
Post by: ergophobe on July 08, 2026, 08:18:26 PM
Paywalled, but seems like a competitor for a golf cart rather than for a car.

Probably would be envied in upscale over-55 communities in the south where people do a lot of local transportation in golf carts even if there is no actual golf course
Title: Re: America’s cheapest new EV is smaller than a ping-pong table and tops out at 19mp
Post by: littleman on July 09, 2026, 06:13:31 AM
On the low income/poverty/day labor end of the ev world I am seeing a lot of fat tires "ebikes*" that could be purchased for less than $1,000, have about 30 miles of range and can do about 30 mph.  These things are quietly enabling transportation for many who otherwise wouldn't be able to get around.

*They are technically not legal in most states, but law enforcement isn't cracking down on them that much.

I purchased a very low cost regular tire size ebikes myself, but it tops off at just about 20 mph, which seems plenty fast for me.  Before switching to the local high school district, I was riding it on the bike trails to get to work. When I took into account parking and walking from my car the commute was about the same amount of time.
Title: Re: America’s cheapest new EV is smaller than a ping-pong table and tops out at 19mp
Post by: Brad on July 09, 2026, 07:30:00 AM
>golf cart

Yup, they are carving out a niche just above a golf cart. Enough to get you to the store on back roads in bad weather.

>fat tires "ebikes*"

Here we used to have liquorcycles, cheap 25cc Chinese scooters that you didn't need a drivers license to operate, so guys with DUI's that had lost their license would ride them to work. It allowed them to keep working and support themselves and their families.
Title: Re: America’s cheapest new EV is smaller than a ping-pong table and tops out at 19mp
Post by: littleman on July 09, 2026, 02:41:43 PM
Yeah, same idea, just a modern take.  I am sure there are a lot of people with suspended licenses riding these ebikes too.  It is interesting from an industry prospective too, because most people written off the electric motorcycle as commercially unviable, but here are these e-mopeds raising up from nowhere, filling a niche my most people didn't think about.
Title: Re: America’s cheapest new EV is smaller than a ping-pong table and tops out at 19mp
Post by: rcjordan on July 09, 2026, 02:52:44 PM
> low income
> lot of people with suspended licenses riding these ebikes

& DWIs

That got to be a problem in NC with IC mopeds. The problem? Accidents but no insurance and they were judgement-proof.  I believe we require registration & insurance now but that may have an mph threshold.