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Why We Are Here => Water Cooler => Topic started by: dogboy on April 17, 2012, 12:11:45 AM

Title: I may have the first stages of cancer...
Post by: dogboy on April 17, 2012, 12:11:45 AM
Just had a biopsy on my outer lip and they said it was PRE-cancerous.  After reading online for a few minutes I decided to look at the inside of my mouth and found a blister on the INSIDE of my mouth, on the other side of the biopsy area, neither I nor the Dr knew about.

I going to go up to John's Hopkins and have then take a look and see what they think can be done.  Anyway, I'm sure you all wish me well, so no need to do so here.  Maybe it's not so bad. Just thought I'd let you all know.  

Keep the faith:)
Title: Re: I may have the first stages of cancer...
Post by: littleman on April 17, 2012, 01:35:25 AM
They could be completely unrelated to each other.  Melanoma would travel from the outside of your skin down, it sounds like if anything this would be a reverse of that.  The probably odds are pretty good that you don't have mouth cancer.

The sub-tropics are tough on us caucasians, you are probably going to have to wear a big hat from here on out.  Anyway, stay positive, what ever it is, it sounds like you caught it in the early stages.
Title: Re: I may have the first stages of cancer...
Post by: bill on April 17, 2012, 01:40:33 AM
That sucks. I certainly hope it turns out that you're wrong.
Title: Re: I may have the first stages of cancer...
Post by: dogboy on April 17, 2012, 11:17:07 AM
<snip>

I guess some life changes are long over due:)
Title: Re: I may have the first stages of cancer...
Post by: Rumbas on April 17, 2012, 11:50:39 AM
Damn, sorry to hear that Rob. I hope they're wrong and it's just the flu or something.
Title: Re: I may have the first stages of cancer...
Post by: Drastic on April 17, 2012, 12:32:27 PM
If this does turn out to be cancer, there are ways to combat it with diet. It is what Amy has been doing.

Look up the Gerson Diet.
Title: Re: I may have the first stages of cancer...
Post by: Brad on April 17, 2012, 12:35:08 PM
You are doing the right thing in getting it checked out right away.  I hope it turns out to be nothing.
Title: Re: I may have the first stages of cancer...
Post by: grnidone on April 17, 2012, 01:20:36 PM
My family has a history of skin cancer.  (Not melanoma, thank God)...It means you go to the dermatologist every 6 months and have whatever burned off your nose or ears.  They might take a picture of your skin so they can compare and see if your moles get bigger.

Probably not a big deal.  You'll be OK.  And, if it is something more, you caught it early...
Title: Re: I may have the first stages of cancer...
Post by: ukgimp on April 17, 2012, 02:10:20 PM
Cannabinoids

http://www.cannabis-med.org/index.php?tpl=faq&red=faqlist&id=104&lng=en

https://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&safe=off&sa=X&ei=bHmNT_v-IOGm0QX6gq33DA&ved=0CCMQvwUoAQ&q=cannabinoids&spell=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=37b244dfe41e981b&biw=1440&bih=775
Title: Re: I may have the first stages of cancer...
Post by: thesaintv12 on April 17, 2012, 04:38:21 PM
Wishing you the best db
Title: Re: I may have the first stages of cancer...
Post by: dogboy on April 17, 2012, 06:36:02 PM
Thanks, folks. Like I said though, before I snipped it out, this is just the effects of my past choices, so I don't really think sympathy has a welcome place at this table, but it's appreciated:)

Thanks to an inside connection, I just got an appointment with Director of the Head and Neck Cancer Center @ Johns Hopkins.  Nice to see my connections get me into something besides a night club once in a while:)  I'm looking at using it as an excuse to get a uhaul and move some up my stuff up North.  I'll pack my bike, so I have a vehicle up there and drive it back here via the Smokeys.

>Cannabinoids
Yeah, what studies I've seen are extremely positive.  I'll make up a batch of that tincture tomorrow.

>Probably not a big deal
For now, since there is little I can do, I'll agree.  However, this is one of those things that can spread to lymph nodes and travel and you don't notice it until it's everywhere.
Title: Re: I may have the first stages of cancer...
Post by: JasonD on April 17, 2012, 06:37:20 PM
be well pal
Title: Re: I may have the first stages of cancer...
Post by: 4Eyes on May 03, 2012, 09:17:56 AM
Sorry hear it DB.

Fingers crossed its not what you are worrying about.
Title: Re: I may have the first stages of cancer...
Post by: dogboy on May 03, 2012, 02:09:49 PM
Thanks, guys.

So I flew up to John's Hopkins and got an exam. Nose and throat are OK, but looks like my outer lip is a little sketchy so it's another biopsy and some lip cream from hell, and we go from there.

So... so far, so good.
Title: Re: I may have the first stages of cancer...
Post by: grnidone on May 03, 2012, 04:53:36 PM
*hug* You'll be OK.  This is just a bump in the road.
Title: Re: I may have the first stages of cancer...
Post by: 2much on May 03, 2012, 05:04:31 PM
DB even if it is cancerous they can remove it, I was just talking to a friend whose boss had that, and they removed it and did a bit of plastic surgery and he was good as new.

You should take a look at your diet though, and taking supplements, there's a bunch of alternative stuff you can do to stay health.
Title: Re: I may have the first stages of cancer...
Post by: dogboy on May 03, 2012, 06:04:56 PM
>a bump in the road
...as long as the bridge right around the corner isn't out ahead:)

>2much
Well, I'll be damned! I missed your grand appearance here! Nice to see your posts:)  I hope I find you well.

>You should take a look at your diet though, and taking supplements, there's a bunch of alternative stuff you can do
To be honest, I've been working on my health for years now in earnest; I even have a new 'Wellness Doctor' I'm going to down here that is testing me for everything under the sun right now because of some unknown low level chronic infection.  I never really recovered from when I got really sick ~7 years ago and it seems to be catching up with me again.  I've been sick my whole life, actually, going all the way back to sever asthma at 4yrs old, and having 7 gallstones at 7 years old, which required emergency surgery. I define inflammation. Thank God for my enormous capacity to overcompensate or people might mistake me for being sickly:)
Title: Re: I may have the first stages of cancer...
Post by: 2much on May 03, 2012, 06:19:00 PM
Lol I missed you too DB it's good to be around here again :-)  And no, no one could ever think of you as sickly, you are the picture of wholesomeness and vitality ;-) 

That sounds great, seems like you have it covered.  Have you looked into homeopathics?  I've been working with a homeopath for a couple of years and it's been amazing.  Keep us posted!!! 
Title: Re: I may have the first stages of cancer...
Post by: Drastic on May 03, 2012, 06:24:15 PM
Going to a plant based whole foods diet has changed my world and my health.

I don' t know if you're into alternative medicine, but I've come across two things that have made a world of difference for finding and dealing with low level problems, either for me or my wife and a few people we know.

Applied Kinesiology
BioSet

A couple of hours with these alternatives has shown more than weeks/months/years of MDs.  (Not saying MDs are bad, but sometimes hard to find problems need alternative solutions.) I'm not talking a couple minor problems here or there, but 180 degrees of feeling better. I can tell you more about these if you're interested.
Title: Re: I may have the first stages of cancer...
Post by: dogboy on May 03, 2012, 07:20:32 PM
>alternatives
I'm into alternatives:) I do 3 day fasts, juice daily, use a Himalayan salt inhaler etc. 

The biggest thing for me was getting a food allergy test which told me I basically am allergic to food, and indicates 'Leaky Gut Syndrome', which is results in malabsorption issues.  (http://www.usbiotek.com/Services_antibody-Assessment-Panels.php) I also have adrenal issues.  Apparently my lifestyle can't afford all the checks I've been writing all these years.  I'm literally burnt out, don't heal well, and generally on the wrong side of the medicine ball.

But to give you an idea what I'm talking about, I'm allergic to salad, whole wheat, bananas, cranberries, cucumbers, just to name a few of some 'healthy foods' most people would think would be the cure, not a cause.  It's because if you have this disorder, whatever you eat, you become allergic to... so the key is to eliminate many of these foods and rotate the rest so you don't eat the same food more than once every 4 days.  Of course the worse you are, the less options you have, and you know me, so my list includes almost nothing.  Meat, however, seems to be ok.  And I'm out of venison from last Fall's hunt, so I stuck with store bought meat, which I'm not so wild about, even if it is 'certified', but at least I don't react so badly to it.

Anyway, I appreciate everyone's well wishes, but there is no emergency here, so I think we can go back to our regularly scheduled bullshitting:)
Title: Re: I may have the first stages of cancer...
Post by: Drastic on May 03, 2012, 07:56:00 PM
Well knowing is half the battle. BioSet actually "resets" your body to remove allergies.

Quick analogy, you ingest something at a time of deep sickness - your body ties that which you ingested to your sickness and gives you a reaction every time from then on. BioSet resets this in your body allowing you to eat/drink normally. It can also help with even deep seeded true allergies, which are actually much more rare.

Amy was found to be allergic to almost everything, to some degree. It was very, very bad, there was not much she could eat without causing problems. BioSet has worked wonders for her, we are lucky to have one person in our city that does this. People travel from neighboring states for treatment. I understand its much bigger and more prevalent in California.

Myself, I was what our nutritionist called "Adrenal Exhausted" just constantly pushing and slamming myself. Cranked up to 11, 18-19 hours a day. (Sound familiar?) I'm finally starting to get through all of that, and it is huge.
Title: Re: I may have the first stages of cancer...
Post by: grnidone on May 03, 2012, 08:45:52 PM
>Applied Kinesiology

As in muscle testing?  That works?  I've always doubted that.

Title: Re: I may have the first stages of cancer...
Post by: dogboy on May 03, 2012, 08:56:42 PM
>your body ties that which you ingested to your sickness and gives you a reaction every time from then on. BioSet resets this in your body allowing you to eat/drink normally.

ok, you have my undivided attention...
Title: Re: I may have the first stages of cancer...
Post by: Drastic on May 04, 2012, 12:52:27 AM
Quote from: grnidone on May 03, 2012, 08:45:52 PM
>Applied Kinesiology

As in muscle testing?  That works?  I've always doubted that.

Yep, it works. I won't be able to push the doc's arm back while he pinpoints a spot on my body. Fixes the problem and then I can. This guy fixed my back after herniating a disk in the gym, I couldn't stand up straight at times. I had to lay in the floor, straighten my back and then roll over and get up.  It took about 6 months, but no one else could help and I wasn't going to do surgery. This can also be used to show (but not fix) allergies. I would have never believed this had someone simply told me how it works, but I can say from first hand experience that it does.

Quote from: dogboy on May 03, 2012, 08:56:42 PM
>your body ties that which you ingested to your sickness and gives you a reaction every time from then on. BioSet resets this in your body allowing you to eat/drink normally.

ok, you have my undivided attention...
The way it works sounds absolutely crazy, but I know of more than 2 people this has worked for (severe allergies removed), and this office stays booked up for weeks.

It's all computerized, they use an electrode held against your thumb and can test for allergies to anything, not just food.  It's pretty interesting to see what the machine can tell, it's a type of biometric scanner. It has shown things that Amy has been told before by others, as well as things she didn't know. My understanding is the system was created by the engineer who designed the MRI machine. The bioset specialist (ours is an RN) "sets" a vial of water specific to what you need after an hour or so of testing and you wear it against your skin, which causes your body to reset to normal. This is a nut shell description, but covers the basics. It takes a few weeks to set in, you go back and see where you're improving and where you're stagnant, additional tests are run, etc. etc. It's a process, I think Amy has gone 3-4 times now and she can eat wheat without feeling like total crap for 3 days after.

We got to the point it was worth a try, so we gave it a shot. We had nothing to lose but the office visit fee, and it worked.
Title: Re: I may have the first stages of cancer...
Post by: dogboy on May 04, 2012, 11:32:16 AM
ok, I'm a big fan of crazy shit that works, so I'll look into that...

I was a huge skeptic of the 'lemonade diet' for solving my completely stuffed up nose (for over a year that was not solved by pills) but after a 4 day fast my nasal passages opened up perfect.  It lasted for 6 months, then I did it for 3 days and it worked again.  6 months later my girl was sick, and finally gave in and tried it and it worked for her.  Niether one of us believed it would work but it was so obvious it did, there was no doubt it was the cause and not just a placebo affect.

thanks:)
Title: Re: I may have the first stages of cancer...
Post by: Drastic on May 04, 2012, 01:12:03 PM
No sweat, hope you find it as successful. Looks like a lot of practitioners in FL as well:
http://www.drellencutler.com/pages/practitionerdirectory/?DisplayType=StateCountry#FL
Title: Re: I may have the first stages of cancer...
Post by: Rumbas on May 04, 2012, 02:12:42 PM
I'm crazy worn out by allergies as well. Took a treatment at the doctors for a year with weekly injections. You know the usual way of treating allergies and it wore me out every time. I ended looking like the Michelin man from 4 shots - 2 in each arm.

It helped and my allergies are down a long way to what it was years ago, however I can't seem to shake it all off and this year I'm pretty sure there's a correlation between getting nasty serious migraine and allergies.

Sounds interesting with both the "lemonade diet" and Bioset - will look into it, thanks Dras.
Title: Re: I may have the first stages of cancer...
Post by: dogboy on May 04, 2012, 04:16:46 PM
Basically the lemonade is 1 lemon, some maple syrup, and cyanne pepper. That's it.  The guy who invented it is nuts (as in looney). They do it for 10 days.  The maple syrup gives you energy, but you should be taking it easy while you do this.  I've only gotten to day 4 before its enough. In fact, now it takes 2 days to tune me up. 

The idea behind it is basically by starving yourself, your body starts to eat itself starting w all the weird shit it stored before that it didn't know what to with... And it's this build up of weird shit that you stored that is causing your allergies. 

In any event, I don't know why it worked, only that it does work. Just ease yourself back into food w protein shakes, etc. don't go out and eat like a pig or you will end up totally constipated because you basically shut your digestive track down.