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Why We Are Here => Water Cooler => Topic started by: dogboy on October 28, 2012, 12:40:43 PM

Title: Global Warming
Post by: dogboy on October 28, 2012, 12:40:43 PM
...is going to screw up my morning coffee

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Title: Re: Global Warming
Post by: Rumbas on October 28, 2012, 05:38:03 PM
Looks like my basement last summer. Enjoy the show.
Title: Re: Global Warming
Post by: littleman on October 28, 2012, 06:04:23 PM
Damn!  So, is yours fixed at a curtain height while your neighbors have floating  docks?
Title: Re: Global Warming
Post by: dogboy on October 28, 2012, 07:30:29 PM
Nope, everyone has fixed docks.... mine just isn't as high as my neighbors that just added 1' to their seawall, and put in a brand new dock.  The house was built in 69, so whether the sea level rise is man made or not (I believe it is) it is definitely higher than what they were thinking 50 years ago.

I'm lucky that storm passed us by.  If it would have hit us, I think things would have been really bad here. I imagine its going to really cause some havoc up North. Millions are going to be without power.  You cant have that much wind, without trees taking out the power-lines in places like DC. I'm sure rc is already on heightened alert.

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...the tides are as high as I've seen them in 5 years down here.  A1A (the road along the beach) is still flooded with seawater in Lauderdale.  Miami had worse flooding.  But this is nothing compared to what the mid-atlantic is going to see.  This thing is going to paralyze them with water and downed lines and trees.  As you get into the mountains of WV and PA they are looking at 1-2' of snow on top of trees that still haven't lost their leaves.  Its going to a bad one, I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Global Warming
Post by: dogboy on October 29, 2012, 11:34:45 AM
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Title: Re: Global Warming
Post by: hungrygoose on October 29, 2012, 11:55:55 AM
that last pic makes florida look tiny.

Title: Re: Global Warming
Post by: dogboy on October 29, 2012, 12:06:02 PM
QuoteSandy, a Category 1 hurricane with sustained winds of 85 mph early Monday, was blamed for 65 deaths in the Caribbean before it began traveling northward, parallel to the Eastern Seaboard. As of 5 a.m. Monday, it was centered about 385 miles south-southeast of New York City, moving to the north at 15 mph, with hurricane-force winds extending an unusual 175 miles from its center. [...]  Forecasters said the combination could bring close to a foot of rain in places, a potentially lethal storm surge of 4 to 11 feet across much of the region, and punishing winds that could cause widespread power outages that last for days. The storm could also dump up to 2 feet of snow in Kentucky, North Carolina and West Virginia.
Airlines canceled nearly 7,500 flights and Amtrak began suspending train service across the Northeast. New York, Philadelphia, Washington and Baltimore moved to shut down their subways, buses and trains. Those cities shut down their schools, as did Boston. Non-essential government offices closed in the nation's capital. [...]  "I think this one's going to do us in," said Mark Palazzolo, who boarded up his bait-and-tackle shop in Point Pleasant Beach, N.J., with the same wood he used in past storms, crossing out the names of Hurricanes Isaac and Irene and spray-painting "Sandy" next to them. "I got a call from a friend of mine from Florida last night who said, 'Mark, get out! If it's not the storm, it'll be the aftermath. People are going to be fighting in the streets over gasoline and food.'"

...and for the record, I'm not Mark's friend:)

But yeah, this looks like it's going to be a catastrophic storm. It's basically the entire Eastern seaboard.
Title: Re: Global Warming
Post by: Gurtie on October 29, 2012, 03:48:37 PM
well good luck all of you in the path. Hope it's not a bad as you fear.
Title: Re: Global Warming
Post by: dogboy on October 29, 2012, 04:50:47 PM
by all accounts, it appears it will be worse...

Water is already into Battery Park in NY, and they are expecting the big surge to come later tonight...

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Title: Re: Global Warming
Post by: dogboy on October 29, 2012, 04:55:57 PM
Quotethis storm is even larger than Hurricane Katrina was. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration has categorized the destructive potential of this storm to be 5.8 on a scale that goes from 0 to 6. So don't be fooled when you hear that this is only a "category 1 storm" or that the maximum winds will only be around 80 MPH.

It is the unprecedented size of this storm and the mind boggling storm surges that it is producing that truly make it dangerous. It is being reported that Hurricane Sandy is more than 1,000 miles across from one end to the other. Meteorologists have never seen anything quite like this before, and we are most definitely in unprecedented territory. One meteorologist is already projecting that this megastorm could cause 100 billion dollars in damage, but the true amount of devastation will likely not be fully known for weeks.
Title: Re: Global Warming
Post by: hungrygoose on October 29, 2012, 05:16:16 PM
Had news on all day.  They were saying in some areas the sea level may raise 10 foot, cannot imagine the devastation that could cause.  Could this delay the elections?
Title: Re: Global Warming
Post by: dogboy on October 29, 2012, 05:36:33 PM
It might.  And depending on how well the government responds, it could easily have a huge bearing on how the 60M people being affected could vote.
Title: Re: Global Warming
Post by: dogboy on October 29, 2012, 05:39:08 PM
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Soldiers of the 3rd Inf Reg. continue to stand guard at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, despite adverse weather conditions. The tomb has been guarded continuously since 1937.

"They will not abandon their post," an employee who answered the Arlington Cemetery's phone confirmed to Yahoo News.
Title: Re: Global Warming
Post by: dogboy on October 29, 2012, 05:48:45 PM
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Title: Re: Global Warming
Post by: dogboy on October 29, 2012, 07:35:05 PM
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Title: Re: Global Warming
Post by: Gurtie on October 29, 2012, 08:52:03 PM
not that it especially matters but the unknown soldier one is on mashables top 5 fakes - was an old shot apparently.
Title: Re: Global Warming
Post by: dogboy on October 29, 2012, 09:26:31 PM
You mean they aren't out there right now?
Title: Re: Global Warming
Post by: dogboy on October 29, 2012, 09:31:52 PM
The dates don't jive with Wikipedia.

I pulled that from yahoo news, I think. I bet it is just a Getty image.

Title: Re: Global Warming
Post by: dogboy on October 30, 2012, 01:37:47 AM
QuoteDedication
A civilian guard was first posted at the Tomb on November 17, 1925 to prevent, among other things, families from picnicking on the flat marble slab with views of the city. A military guard was first posted on March 25, 1926. The first 24-hour guard was posted on midnight, July 2, 1937. The Tomb of the Unknowns has been guarded continuously, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, since that time[28] . Inclement weather,[29] [30] terrorist attacks,[31] et cetera, do not cause the watch to cease.[32]
The Tomb Guards, a special platoon within the 3rd U.S. Infantry Regiment (The Old Guard) work on a team rotation of 24 hours on, 24 hours off, for five days, taking the following four days off. A guard takes an average of six hours to prepare his uniform – heavy wool, regardless of the time of year – for the next day's work. In addition to preparing the uniform, guards also conduct physical training, Tomb Guard training, participate in field exercises, cut their hair before the next work day, and at times are involved in regimental functions as well. Tomb Guards are required to memorize 16 pages of information about Arlington National Cemetery and the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, including the locations of nearly 300 graves and who is buried in each one.[33]
[29] Still Vigilant at the Tomb of the Unknowns Despite Irene http://abcnews.go.com/US/hurricanes/vigilant-tomb-unknowns-irene/story?id=14397525#.UI8s4mloTnw

QuoteThis was posted on their Facebook Page 10 hrs ago...
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3d U.S. Infantry Regiment (The Old Guard)
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Spc. Brett Hyde, Tomb Sentinel, 3d U.S. Infantry Regiment (The Old Guard), takes his twenty-one steps across a water soaked mat while guarding the Tomb during Hurricane Sandy at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier, Arlington National Cemetery, Va., Oct. 29, 2012. The Tomb is guarded 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Snow, rain, wind or heat has never stopped the Tomb Sentinels from guarding the tomb for over 64 years. (U.S. Army Photo by Sgt. Jose A. Torres Jr.) Digital — with J Wesley Doughman.

3d U.S. Infantry Regiment (The Old Guard)
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Spc. Brett Hyde, Tomb Sentinel, 3d U.S. Infantry Regiment (The Old Guard), maintains his vigil during Hurricane Sandy while guarding the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier at Arlington National Cemetery, Va., Oct., 29, 2012. In 1948 the Old Guard assumed the post following the unit's reactivation in the nation's capital. (U.S. Army Photo by Sgt. Jose A. Torres Jr.) Digital — with J Wesley Doughman, Lisette Anguiano Bañueloss and CapturedMemories-by Robert.
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Title: Re: Global Warming
Post by: littleman on October 30, 2012, 05:39:12 AM
Where did you get that triton & godzilla image from?
Title: Re: Global Warming
Post by: dogboy on October 30, 2012, 08:28:12 AM
>godzilla image
heheh that's funny stuff:)

https://www.facebook.com/georgehtakei - that dude posts funny stuff if you are a little on the sci-fi geeky side. He's become one of my favorites.  Steven Martin is another, but his jokes are really just mostly verbal commentary on his real life events, with some occasional profoundly funny physical comedy thrown in.
Title: Re: Global Warming
Post by: dogboy on October 30, 2012, 01:59:39 PM
NJ and NY look like a war zone this morning.
Title: Re: Global Warming
Post by: dogboy on October 30, 2012, 02:40:15 PM
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Title: Re: Global Warming
Post by: dogboy on October 30, 2012, 05:00:10 PM
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Title: Re: Global Warming
Post by: Drastic on October 30, 2012, 05:45:16 PM
What airport is that? And wow and the brand new cabs.
Title: Re: Global Warming
Post by: dogboy on October 30, 2012, 08:00:32 PM
not sure which airpot...

the cabs, yeah, if that doesn't say 'NYC Flood', I dont know what does.
Title: Re: Global Warming
Post by: eljefe3 on October 31, 2012, 01:08:10 AM
Nice shots db.  That really shows the extent of the storm. Shak also posted on FB the building with the ripped off facade. He was 50 yards away across the street from it.
Title: Re: Global Warming
Post by: dogboy on November 02, 2012, 12:15:16 PM
I don't know where to even start in some of these aftermath scenes...
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You can't even rebuild until you clean up, and if you clean up, maybe you shouldn't rebuild in the same spots?

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It also seems like a huge waste of everything. It seems like all that stuff should be recycled or reused.  You would need a Grand Canyon East of the Mississippi to hold everything.

I also think that people are now rely 100% on the government.  As far as I know no one from outside that area is really trying to help; we all just watch the news like a movie. People think that they will 'pay through taxes', which is funny to me because the US is in debt already and a trillion over budget for the year - they are going to pay for this alright. Contrary to the silver lining crowd says, destroying things and re-building them isn't as good as sustainable job creation and manufacturing. Destroying houses to create carpentry jobs is not good for business.

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Title: Re: Global Warming
Post by: buckworks on November 02, 2012, 03:19:17 PM
If someone builds again in the same spots, it would be important to build differently. It IS possible to design buildings that would stand up to hurricane-type punishment, although such durability wouldn't come cheap.