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Title: Staples Now Selling 3-D Printers...
Post by: grnidone on May 04, 2013, 12:08:06 AM
Who's gonna be the first to buy?  RC?


http://money.cnn.com/2013/05/03/technology/innovation/staples-3d-printer/index.html
Title: Re: Staples Now Selling 3-D Printers...
Post by: rcjordan on May 04, 2013, 12:24:10 PM
Oh, I'm going to buy one  and one of those mini-cnc mills. Some day.

It's kind of ironic that you posted the now mass-marketing of a 3-d printer to the unwashed public.  I just finished this article:


http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/05/03/this-is-the-worlds-first-entirely-3d-printed-gun-photos/

I'm not interested in producing this but I  do have the unsettling feeling that the world is not going to be prepared for this particular convergence of technologies   ...countries like the UK, which (until now) had a somewhat effective ban on handguns may face a flood of homebrewed Saturday Night Specials.
Title: Re: Staples Now Selling 3-D Printers...
Post by: Drastic on May 04, 2013, 02:26:06 PM
Interesting that they made the barrel work from plastic, though it is super thick. That looks like a .22, I wonder how thick the barrel would be for a .38 or larger.

And they *still* needed a metal firing pin.

Printing guns and carrying printed guns to be illegal in 3...2...1...
Title: Re: Staples Now Selling 3-D Printers...
Post by: rcjordan on May 05, 2013, 12:41:16 PM
an engineer with the group distributing the plans did an interview thread on reddit.  the specs are even more under-the-radar than you'd think

http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1dnwmj/im_an_engineer_at_defense_distributed_makers_of/

>barrel
engineer says it's good for 10 shots.

>3-2-1

too late. this is the internet.
Title: Re: Staples Now Selling 3-D Printers...
Post by: grnidone on May 05, 2013, 05:26:16 PM
I still can't believe there isn't a "design your own shoe" out of this...I could see little girls -- and not-so-little-girls -- totally going to town with this.
Title: Re: Staples Now Selling 3-D Printers...
Post by: littleman on May 05, 2013, 07:45:24 PM
>10 shots

I wouldn't want to be the one to pull the 10th trigger -- that sounds dangerous.   I think the trick will be to be able to use a common pipe for the barrel.
Title: Re: Staples Now Selling 3-D Printers...
Post by: buckworks on May 06, 2013, 01:17:40 AM
Quote"design your own shoe"

ShoesOfPrey.com
Title: Re: Staples Now Selling 3-D Printers...
Post by: Chunkford on May 06, 2013, 09:39:31 AM
Disposable guns are going to be the rage.
Title: Re: Staples Now Selling 3-D Printers...
Post by: Drastic on May 06, 2013, 03:33:59 PM
So I guess a .50 barrel would be about the size of a 55 gallon drum.
Title: Re: Staples Now Selling 3-D Printers...
Post by: rcjordan on May 10, 2013, 11:26:52 PM
>this is the internet

http://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-takes-over-distribution-of-censored-3d-printable-gun-130510/
Title: Re: Staples Now Selling 3-D Printers...
Post by: Brad on May 11, 2013, 01:49:10 PM
OT

I love how this thread highlights the great divide between men and women. We have a 3D printer all the men want to make a gun and the women want to make shoes.    :)

/OT
Title: Re: Staples Now Selling 3-D Printers...
Post by: rcjordan on May 11, 2013, 05:23:46 PM
>shoes

I have 4 daughters. Back in the 80s some genius came up with the idea of making girls' summer pumps out of a decent quality soft plastic in a few colors.  They were $2/pair and far more useful than flip-flops as they were nice enough to wear to school or restaurant.  Brand was Jellies.  We bought those things by the truckload and used them for everything including swim shoes for the river.  A few months back, I went to see if they were still made  --yeah, but they are retro chic now an are pretty pricey

I'm eventually going to buy one of these printers just for the hell of it. Maybe I'll be able to print my own Crocs.
Title: Re: Staples Now Selling 3-D Printers...
Post by: Rooftop on May 13, 2013, 09:04:45 AM
The thing that everyone overlooks with 3D printing is the role that the materials play.  

We're doing work with 2 3D printing companies. There are some incredible resolution printers now when you step out of the home print market.  (I had a 3D printed model of a ship, complete with full rigging, balanced on my finger last week).    However the interest is really in the materials as these dictate what you can make.  

The press seems to blindly overlook this fact.  If you read most press about 3D printing then you'd believe you can take a $3000 printer, one refill and print anything from human ears to firearms.  

One of the groups of materials that I think has the broadest potential are the wax resins.  You can print something with incredible detail in wax, form a mould around it, melt the wax away and end up with the ability to be able to cast something of amazing detail.  This is being used a lot in a new wave of bespoke jewellery, where precious metals are cast in a process similar to traditional sand-casting by using a mould designed CAD & printed.  However I can see that process being used to all manner of metal objects... probably including all the parts required to make a far more sophisticated weapon.

The point that will probably be of more interest to people here though is that all the money will be in materials.  I'd imagine that it will be a lot harder for firms to enter the replacement refills market than it was with injet ink (and the manufacturers seem to be doing their best to ensure that is the case!), but I think that is going to be an interesting market.
Title: Re: Staples Now Selling 3-D Printers...
Post by: Rooftop on May 13, 2013, 09:09:35 AM
Just found a picture we took of the 3D printed ship :  https://www.dropbox.com/s/l20ylnidlvh71iy/DSC_8489.JPG

The coin is a (grubby) British 5p - the same size as a US Dime. 
Title: Re: Staples Now Selling 3-D Printers...
Post by: Chunkford on May 13, 2013, 09:21:27 AM
WOW that is pretty neat.
I see a new wave of Kinder Surprise toys hitting the market! :D
Title: Re: Staples Now Selling 3-D Printers...
Post by: Rooftop on May 13, 2013, 09:34:34 AM
Quite a lot of toys are being made with them actually.  We had some warhammer type figures to look at. 

Love the kinder idea... you could print the yellow egg around it! 
Title: Re: Staples Now Selling 3-D Printers...
Post by: Rupert on May 13, 2013, 10:45:38 AM
Quotemelt the wax away and end up with the ability to be able to cast something of amazing detail.

Lost wax process.  They have been making turbine blades (jet engines) that way for years, so the methods are well understood.

I had missed that as the obvious use.  Thanks :) 

Do you think Plaster of Paris will be the other tool? Rubber moulds for photocopying.
Title: Re: Staples Now Selling 3-D Printers...
Post by: rcjordan on May 13, 2013, 11:56:24 AM
There are 2 related products working their way through the maker channels that will kick this market into hyper-drive; [1] machines to DIY recycle trash plastics into extruded filament and [2] cheap 3-d scanners that will do the cad/cam with the push of a button.  The scanners are supposedly already being marketed.  I'm waiting for the extruder before I jump in. 
Title: Re: Staples Now Selling 3-D Printers...
Post by: Rupert on May 13, 2013, 02:33:56 PM
Wow... so the raw material is already in the home... how cool is that. 

For the Dinner party: I want some fancy cocktail glasses... recycle to old ones love, and print off some of these :) 


The conversations are going to be different:

Can you finish your coke, so I can make a coat hanger please?

Title: Re: Staples Now Selling 3-D Printers...
Post by: grnidone on May 13, 2013, 04:17:38 PM
>The point that will probably be of more interest to people here though is that all the money will be in materials.

Of course.  Just like print cartridges...
Title: Re: Staples Now Selling 3-D Printers...
Post by: rcjordan on May 13, 2013, 05:05:31 PM
>already in the home
>cartridges

Yeah, the profit is in the extruded filament ...the Gillette model.  There are DIY machines out there to convert bulk ABS pellets to filament and cut your materials cost by 80% but I want to process scrap --hdpe, in particular, is plentiful.

While I wait for the above, the print dimensions of the printers keep growing.