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Title: Amazon to deliver via drones in 4-5 years
Post by: Drastic on December 02, 2013, 06:05:10 PM
Was going to put this in the terminator thread but thought it warranted its own.

http://money.cnn.com/2013/12/01/technology/amazon-drone-delivery/

One article mentioned 30 minute delivery times.
Title: Re: Amazon to deliver via drones in 4-5 years
Post by: edo on December 02, 2013, 10:23:45 PM
Great publicity for Amazon, but will it happen? Hmmm, not sure.

Regulation is one big hurdle it will have to overcome, but who wants to see zillions of drones buzzing around the sky all day long? I think the aesthetic may kill the idea.
Title: Re: Amazon to deliver via drones in 4-5 years
Post by: rcjordan on December 03, 2013, 12:36:44 AM
We're looking forward to it.

http://i.imgur.com/XRtsM9Z.jpg
Title: Re: Amazon to deliver via drones in 4-5 years
Post by: rcjordan on December 03, 2013, 12:41:38 AM
<added>

Phooey!  Bezos called me to say he'd put me on the alpha list.  But while I was out.....

http://i.imgur.com/1OVaAQ0.jpg
Title: Re: Amazon to deliver via drones in 4-5 years
Post by: edo on December 03, 2013, 08:46:55 AM
Hahahaha that last pic is awesome  ;D

Title: Re: Amazon to deliver via drones in 4-5 years
Post by: Rumbas on December 03, 2013, 09:41:45 AM
Hehehe, nice marketing stunt from Amazon though. It's everywhere.
Title: Re: Amazon to deliver via drones in 4-5 years
Post by: Rooftop on December 03, 2013, 09:44:27 AM
amazon prime mentioned all over the web in time for peak buying season.  Smart.
Title: Re: Amazon to deliver via drones in 4-5 years
Post by: Drastic on December 03, 2013, 03:30:05 PM
Yep, excellent marketing, but there may be some truth in it.

China has already been testing it:
http://qz.com/120654/china-could-become-the-first-country-to-legalize-parcel-delivery-by-drone/

...article from September.
Title: Re: Amazon to deliver via drones in 4-5 years
Post by: rcjordan on December 03, 2013, 06:44:54 PM
It's do-able, at least for some customers.  People are picturing droids leaving a central warehouse and covering some distance with the package in tow.  I see a UPS-type truck driving through the neighborhoods serving as a transport/mothership.  The droids will just travel short distances, probably homing in on an rfid chip-laden delivery pad or self-locking pod.
Title: Re: Amazon to deliver via drones in 4-5 years
Post by: ergophobe on December 04, 2013, 03:06:59 AM
I wish they would save their money and just focus on finally getting Wonkavision to work right. I think with today's giant screens, we might be ready for this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPi71LSZxT0
Title: Re: Amazon to deliver via drones in 4-5 years
Post by: Brad on December 04, 2013, 01:47:04 PM
Won't work out in the country, especially during duck season.
Title: Re: Amazon to deliver via drones in 4-5 years
Post by: rcjordan on December 04, 2013, 02:05:45 PM
UPS says they've been working on it, too.

http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/3/5169878/ups-is-researching-its-own-delivery-drones-to-compete-with-amazons

>duck season

See my first image link above


Again, this would work from a mothership truck platform, basically just eliminating the last few hundred feet of the delivery.  The bigger question is whether the truck has to have a human driver. It's ironic that we've come to accept the far more complex automated driving systems.
Title: Re: Amazon to deliver via drones in 4-5 years
Post by: Brad on December 04, 2013, 06:10:26 PM
Liability is going to be a problem.  Some drone goes wonky and chops up my roof or takes out my digital antenna.

What's the market segment for half hour drone delivery, business or residential?

I think RC is right there has to be some sort of delivery pad/locker setup.  Right now UPS delivers onto the shelter of my front porch.  Hard for a drone to do that.

Im a little skeptical that the legal hurdles can be overcome.  But I expect to see lay encforcement and DNR/wildlife management use of drones to be heavy in the near future.
Title: Re: Amazon to deliver via drones in 4-5 years
Post by: Chunkford on December 04, 2013, 09:39:13 PM
Oh look, Google's joining the party -www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/dec/04/google-robots-amazon-drones-android-droids
Title: Re: Amazon to deliver via drones in 4-5 years
Post by: rcjordan on December 04, 2013, 10:09:09 PM
We're going to need a control tower in our yards to handle the traffic.

>liability

Umm, the G autonomous car has been safer than humans.   Actuarily speaking, insurance rates should go down --it'll never happen because drones will be an easy tax & insurance revenue stream for bureaucracies.
Title: Re: Amazon to deliver via drones in 4-5 years
Post by: Drastic on December 04, 2013, 10:38:19 PM
RC, you'd get your own designated flight path from amazon delivery warehouse, first priority right of way.
Title: Re: Amazon to deliver via drones in 4-5 years
Post by: bill on December 05, 2013, 04:58:34 AM
This is all fine and dandy until somebody develops this:

http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/12/flying-hacker-contraption-hunts-other-drones-turns-them-into-zombies/

Flying hacker contraption hunts other drones, turns them into zombies
Title: Re: Amazon to deliver via drones in 4-5 years
Post by: ergophobe on December 05, 2013, 08:25:20 PM
If you think about it, self-flying drones are a much easier problem than self-driving cars - no roads to stay on. 3D means fewer chances for collisions. If they fly fast enough and have good evasive manoeuvers, that will make it tough for the average duck hunter to hunt for Christmas presents. Now, well-placed netting in a narrow pass could yield a terrific haul.

Seriously, though, depending on the technology, I could see this being especially useful for rural areas. Sometimes the UPS truck has to do a 2 mile RT to my neighborhood for a single package.

Of course, there's one thing that a drone can't replace. In the situation just mentioned, the driver will often track down a recipient or spouse at work and deliver there. And of course, we successfully received a letter that was literally addressed with nothing but

MyFirstName and MyWifesFirstName
Our Town, Our State

That's it. We got it right on time. No delay.
Title: Walmart to Shoot Down Amazon Drones
Post by: Mackin USA on December 06, 2013, 02:09:32 PM
Walmart to Install Surface-to-Air Missiles on Store Rooftops to Shoot Down Amazon Drones

http://www.rockcitytimes.com/walmart-install-mini-surface-air-missiles-store-roofs-shoot-amazon-drones/
Title: Re: Walmart to Shoot Down Amazon Drones
Post by: Brad on December 06, 2013, 02:17:48 PM
Quote from: Mackin USA on December 06, 2013, 02:09:32 PM
Walmart to Install Surface-to-Air Missiles on Store Rooftops to Shoot Down Amazon Drones

http://www.rockcitytimes.com/walmart-install-mini-surface-air-missiles-store-roofs-shoot-amazon-drones/

There is a video game here.
Title: Re: Amazon to deliver via drones in 4-5 years
Post by: grnidone on January 15, 2014, 10:18:59 PM
Am I the only one wondering about what dogs will do to this thing?  I can see some dogs watching the thing land and then ripping it to bits!
Title: Re: Amazon to deliver via drones in 4-5 years
Post by: littleman on January 16, 2014, 06:45:50 AM
Or, it would rip the dog to bits...  Those blades look dangerous.
Title: Re: Amazon to deliver via drones in 4-5 years
Post by: rcjordan on June 12, 2014, 11:09:39 AM
They read our thread...

http://www.wired.com/2014/06/the-next-big-thing-you-missed-delivery-drones-launched-from-trucks-are-the-future-of-shipping/
Title: Re: Amazon to deliver via drones in 4-5 years
Post by: Chunkford on June 24, 2014, 06:09:07 PM
The FAA isn't having any of it.
Spoil sports...

http://www.ubergizmo.com/2014/06/faa-banhammer-drone-deliveries/
Title: Re: Amazon to deliver via drones in 4-5 years
Post by: rcjordan on April 28, 2017, 06:06:27 PM
2013 thread. bump for reality check.
Title: Re: Amazon to deliver via drones in 4-5 years
Post by: rcjordan on July 16, 2021, 02:47:30 PM
Amazon applies for patent on secondary delivery vehicle to carry packages from truck to doorstep
https://techxplore.com/news/2021-07-amazon-patent-secondary-delivery-vehicle.html