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Why We Are Here => Water Cooler => Topic started by: Drastic on August 07, 2014, 09:56:25 PM

Title: Ebola
Post by: Drastic on August 07, 2014, 09:56:25 PM
So a rather nerdy and scientific looking gent with a credential card hanging around his neck was in an alternative medicine store yesterday downtown here. Turns out he is a CDC whip from the Atlanta office (2 hours away.) He does some kind of biohazard audits for CDC centers.

Said the store should probably stock up on antivirals b/c people would soon be coming in droves. Other comments were "the weak and infants aren't going to make it."

Normally the stuff in the news I consider hyped and sensationalized as usual. However, this guy.... and he also said they had idiots in ATL as he found a lethal virus sample in a vial in a sandwich bag in some random locker that they were presently working on containing.

Not sure what to think. Of course this guy could have just been trying to impress cute ladies in the store, but good reason for pause.
Title: Re: Ebola
Post by: rcjordan on August 07, 2014, 10:16:17 PM
If it gets to Haiti....
Title: Re: Ebola
Post by: littleman on August 07, 2014, 11:11:23 PM
I have no idea.  I was surprised that they let the aid worker in to the US with the virus.  The officials say that it takes direct contact with someone infected or their bodily fluids.  One would imagine the aid workers would know this.
Title: Re: Ebola
Post by: JasonD on August 08, 2014, 11:29:20 AM
really???

Ebola is a bitch to catch and antibiotics work really well if you do get it.
Title: Re: Ebola
Post by: Drastic on August 08, 2014, 01:20:20 PM
Yesterday I read a couple articles where the problem is getting out of hand in Liberia because health workers are afraid to come in to work, and bodies are being dumped in the streets as a result.

Title: Re: Ebola
Post by: nffc on August 08, 2014, 01:58:23 PM
Agree it's hard to catch but a virus doesn't respond to antibiotics.
Title: Re: Ebola
Post by: JasonD on August 08, 2014, 05:30:48 PM
> but a virus doesn't respond to antibiotics.

Ermmm yes, It's a bloody virus! . I am hanging my head in shame.
Title: Re: Ebola
Post by: buckworks on August 09, 2014, 07:38:03 AM
If you don't already have supplies on hand so your household could be self-sufficient for a few weeks, now would be a good time to start stocking up.

No one knows how bad this might get before it's over, and reducing one's need to go out and about might be A Good Thing.

If nothing happens, you can just eat your supplies.
Title: Re: Ebola
Post by: rcjordan on August 13, 2014, 07:59:04 PM
Using a Tactic Unseen in a Century, Countries Cordon Off Ebola-Racked Areas

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/13/science/using-a-tactic-unseen-in-a-century-countries-cordon-off-ebola-racked-areas.html?_r=0
Title: Re: Ebola
Post by: buckworks on August 14, 2014, 01:20:23 PM
Quote"It seems like a reflexive movement by the governments to show that they're doing something, and since they have armies more elaborate than their health care systems, they use the army," said Dr. William Schaffner, the head of preventive medicine at Vanderbilt University's medical school.

I just hope that the people behind the cordon are provided with adequate food and other supplies. A cordon is a terrible tool for a terrible situation.
Title: Re: Ebola
Post by: Rumbas on August 19, 2014, 02:22:35 PM
Seems we have it in Germany - auch!

http://www.bild.de/regional/berlin/ebola/verdachtsfall-in-berliner-jobcenter-37307992.bild.html (in German)
Title: Re: Ebola
Post by: rcjordan on August 19, 2014, 10:12:22 PM
I read an article last week by either CDC or WHO that said the big jump will most likely be to a major African city, probably Lagos.

This just popped up on my feeds

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/13/ebola-nigerian-capital
Title: Re: Ebola
Post by: rcjordan on September 04, 2014, 11:36:15 AM
shifts amoothly into 2nd gear...

"close to 400 deaths in the past week"

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/03/us-health-ebola-idUSKBN0GY1V320140903
Title: Re: Ebola
Post by: Rumbas on September 04, 2014, 01:59:30 PM
This is not like everything we've ever seen before says the people with the former outbreaks. Just on the news.. auch.
Title: Re: Ebola
Post by: rcjordan on September 11, 2014, 11:14:40 AM
http://s3.amazonaws.com/policymic-images/aj4ws7zflfl6emkm6bllvs23ac31vkw937abadbnwvtnpye1lzfbsf5rtnwrda3m.gif
Title: Re: Ebola
Post by: rcjordan on September 16, 2014, 01:06:59 PM
For some reason, I keep thinking of the napalm scene in the opening minutes of the movie "Outbreak."

Obama to send 3,000 troops to tackle Ebola

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/16/us-health-ebola-obama-idUSKBN0HB08S20140916

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Make no bones about it, if we're committing troops to this --we don't give a shit about Africa-- then the intel is bad-bad-bad.
Title: Re: Ebola
Post by: buckworks on September 30, 2014, 10:15:54 PM
Ebola case confirmed in the US:

http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/health/2014/09/29/dallas-presbyterian-hospital-ebola-patient-isolation/16460629/
Title: Re: Ebola
Post by: littleman on October 01, 2014, 04:27:35 AM
Lets see how the CDC does.
Title: Re: Ebola
Post by: Rupert on October 01, 2014, 11:23:52 AM
are these the latest stats then:

QuoteEbola has infected 6,553 people and has killed 3,083 in the three countries hit hardest by the epidemic — Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia — the World Health Organization says. The number of cases has been doubling every three weeks, and the CDC estimates that the disease could affect up to 1.4 million people by January if it's not quickly put under control.
Title: Re: Ebola
Post by: rcjordan on October 03, 2014, 03:30:23 PM
A flaw in an electronic health records system is being blamed for the release of a man with Ebola into the Dallas area,

The hospital said it was making changes to the records system. "As result of this discovery, Texas Health Dallas has relocated the travel history documentation to a portion of the EHR that is part of both work flows," according to the statement. "It also has been modified to specifically reference Ebola-endemic regions in Africa."

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-10-03/electronic-record-gap-allowed-ebola-man-to-leave-hospital.html
Title: Re: Ebola + Temporarily out of stock.
Post by: Mackin USA on October 03, 2014, 08:03:37 PM
http://www.amazon.com/DuPont-TY122S-Disposable-Coverall-Elastic/dp/B00821J8UC/ref=pd_sim_hi_4?ie=UTF8&refRID=18FJWBVYQTK5KVYT8CTE
Title: Re: Ebola
Post by: rcjordan on October 03, 2014, 08:55:54 PM
>"relocated the travel history documentation to a portion of the EHR that"... the doctor (might/maybe/sometimes read).

You guys been to an emergency room lately? Say, on a Friday night? Good luck with that.
Title: Re: Ebola
Post by: Brad on October 03, 2014, 11:38:45 PM
Quote from: rcjordan on October 03, 2014, 03:30:23 PM
A flaw in an electronic health records system is being blamed for the release of a man with Ebola into the Dallas area,

The hospital said it was making changes to the records system. "As result of this discovery, Texas Health Dallas has relocated the travel history documentation to a portion of the EHR that is part of both work flows," according to the statement. "It also has been modified to specifically reference Ebola-endemic regions in Africa."

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-10-03/electronic-record-gap-allowed-ebola-man-to-leave-hospital.html

The flaw is the hospital only listens to the part about insurance coverage and ability to pay, they never read the charts.
Title: Re: Ebola
Post by: rcjordan on October 06, 2014, 04:46:40 PM
graphs going hockey-stick

http://cpid.iri.columbia.edu/
Title: Re: Ebola
Post by: littleman on October 17, 2014, 05:37:57 PM
>hocky stick

Apparently it is inevitable now.
http://currents.plos.org/outbreaks/article/obk-14-0043-modeling-the-impact-of-interventions-on-an-epidemic-of-ebola-in-sierra-leone-and-liberia/
Title: Re: Ebola
Post by: rcjordan on October 17, 2014, 05:55:46 PM
Obama authorized the use of Nstional Guard and Reserves yesterday.
Title: Re: Ebola
Post by: Chunkford on October 17, 2014, 08:37:16 PM
It's ok, there's an easier way to protect ourselves - http://sasquatchglass.com/weed-protects-ebola/
Title: Re: Ebola
Post by: rcjordan on October 18, 2014, 04:42:43 PM
http://i.imgur.com/Y2mGjQk.jpg
Title: Re: Ebola
Post by: Travoli on October 24, 2014, 02:56:45 AM
Oh shit. 

NYC Doctor tests positive.  Rode the subway just hours before.
Is this where panic starts?

http://www.myfoxny.com/story/26876626/possible-ebola-patient-at-bellevue
Title: Re: Ebola
Post by: buckworks on October 24, 2014, 08:36:31 AM
I applaud people who go to Africa to help, but fer cryin' out loud, plan for a period of seclusion when you come home, until the incubation period has passed.
Title: Re: Ebola
Post by: Gurtie on October 24, 2014, 09:26:42 AM
yeah initially the report here was saying he had stayed away from people and been careful, now its saying he felt bad for two days before checking in and was on the subway hours before he was admitted - thats two quite different stories so I wonder where the actual truth lies.

Anyone who goes out of their way to help with MSF would, you would think, equallly safeguard people in NYC if they suspected they may be ill, so the news reports aren't quite adding up to me.
Title: Re: Ebola
Post by: Brad on October 24, 2014, 01:06:55 PM
Quote from: buckworks on October 24, 2014, 08:36:31 AM
I applaud people who go to Africa to help, but fer cryin' out loud, plan for a period of seclusion when you come home, until the incubation period has passed.


I agree.  You would think this would be just common sense, but you can't count on people to do the rational thing.
Title: Re: Ebola
Post by: rcjordan on November 05, 2014, 08:18:47 PM
http://who.int/csr/disease/ebola/situation-reports/en/

13k cases
Title: Re: Ebola
Post by: buckworks on November 16, 2014, 03:30:05 PM
In the New England Journal of Medicine: A report from the Doctors Without Borders (MSF) clinic in Monrovia, Liberia offered their experience with some 700 Ebola cases:


http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMp1413084