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Title: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: littleman on January 02, 2015, 01:46:57 AM
Alright, I am broadening this out a bit more than we have done in the past. If you want to commit to any activity or practice that will aid you in being more healthy post it here. 

Possible examples:
Cleaning up your diet
Drinking less
Cutting back on smoking
Exercise commitments

A goal isn't required, but if you have one please state it.

My commitment: continue to workout four times a week and keep my diet on track. My goal will remain the same as the last one: get down to 12% body fat.

From the last thread we already have:
Gm66, 5 workouts a week
Drastic, 5 workouts a week
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: littleman on January 05, 2015, 09:50:04 PM
Okay, so today is day one!  So far we only have three people participating. Like I said above, any type of commitment to better health is qualifies -- so if you made any related of New Years resolution you might as well sign up here and put it out there for others to see.  Making a goal public can be a good motivator.  Week 0 - 4/4 btw.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: ergophobe on January 05, 2015, 11:27:38 PM
15 miles per week outdoor running.

All right... I'm going to jump back in with a commitment to run a min of 15 miles per week outdoors, regardless of other exercise. That's pretty lame, but 3 runs * 5 miles/run is a reasonable goal and less than I've been doing lately, sad to say.

Given that it is winter and other stuff happens... I'll sub out skate skiing at 1.5x and mt biking at 2x and hiking a 3x (i.e. 10 miles on a mt bike or 15 miles if hiking counts as a 5 mile run). 'Cause I like to make things complicated and the weather doesn't always cooperate.

Would love to have a strength training goal, but I need to create some sort of home gym for that to happen. I can't get a good workout with just the pile of rocks in the yard and it's too far now for me to go to a weight room.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: littleman on January 06, 2015, 12:27:33 AM
Great Ergophobe, I am glad to see  you back in.  I find your workouts inspirational.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: buckworks on January 06, 2015, 06:01:58 PM
My goal for March 15 is to weigh seven pounds less than what the scale said this morning.

I'd still have more to go, but that would reach a satisfying milestone.

Food-wise, I continue to follow the guidelines of Wheat Belly which is the first diet that has ever worked for me.

Someone gave me an elliptical trainer that they no longer wanted and it is proving useful. The monitors / sensors don't work but I can hop on for a few minutes here and there and just count my strides.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: littleman on January 06, 2015, 06:54:37 PM
Great Buckworks!  That sounds like an excellent and ambitious goal.  How much have you lost so far?
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: buckworks on January 06, 2015, 07:39:44 PM
73 pounds.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: littleman on January 06, 2015, 08:32:10 PM
Wow!  Great job.  Do you have an ultimate goal weight?
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: buckworks on January 06, 2015, 08:42:04 PM
I don't have a specific weight goal yet. The weight is just gradually coming off as I eat according to plan (wheat avoidance, mostly).
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: littleman on January 06, 2015, 08:57:35 PM
I'm curious, do you find yourself eating less carbs in general now that you have restricted wheat, or have you replaced your wheat consumption with other starches such as rice and potatoes?
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: ergophobe on January 06, 2015, 10:34:32 PM
Thanks LM... just using what's available to me, which is pretty different than what's available to most people here.

>>73 pounds

A luminescence of your former self ("shadow" did not seem appropriate here). We'll have to redo our photo in the "Warning! I'm Thinking" shirts for a Core Commit Before/After (though mostly I just have more grey hair).

PS, since when do you speak pounds?
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: buckworks on January 06, 2015, 11:00:18 PM
Quoteeating less carbs in general ... or have you replaced your wheat consumption with other starches

Some of each, probably. In many contexts I've replaced wheat consumption with other starches. Oatmeal for breakfast instead of toast, rice instead of macaroni, potato chips instead of pretzels, that sort of thing. Other than wheat I don't make a conscious point of avoiding any food in particular; I eat what I want when I want.

Wheat Belly's theory is that there are substances in modern wheat varieties which overstimulate the appetite. When you consume less wheat, your appetite lines up better with what your body actually needs. My own experience has matched the theory. When I'm consistent about avoiding wheat, the weight gradually comes off. If I'm not consistent, things plateau.

I've been losing one or two, sometimes three pounds per month for over two years, with almost no sense of effort or deprivation. The change has been so gradual that people who see me all the time have hardly noticed, but I do get comments from people who haven't seen me for a while.

I can't say I've eliminated wheat completely ... social life interferes with that ... but I've probably cut back 90%.

@ergo ... I was born to the imperial system and not all parts of my brain have made the switch to metric. ;)
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: Rumbas on January 08, 2015, 12:08:22 PM
I'm in LM!

Back is getting a lot better and I've resumed some regular training again.

GOALS:
1. Training 3-4 times per week.
2. Getting to 90 kg. from 98 by my 41st birthday on July 1st.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: Drastic on January 08, 2015, 02:29:46 PM
Awesome Raz, glad you are doing better. And congrats Bucky, great results!

It was about 12 degrees F when I hit the gym this am. A bit chilly in shorts, but I made it.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: littleman on January 08, 2015, 03:54:16 PM
Hey!  Glad you are able to join back in Raz.  That's great news about your back.

Dras... 12 degrees, man.  I don't think I've ever been in weather that cold.
Title: Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15 >> Cleaning up your diet
Post by: Mackin USA on January 08, 2015, 04:10:00 PM
I know that I'm late to the party  BUT I have just started a HARD CORE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketogenic_diet

Ruth Ann has been on it for 6 months and is JUST starting a blog. http://ketomagic.com/wp/
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: littleman on January 08, 2015, 04:36:01 PM
I'm really glad you could join us Mr. Mackin!  Please keep us in the loop on how you are doing.  The ketogenic diet is one of my favorite topics.  Eating at or very near ketogenic levels has worked really well for me.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: ergophobe on January 08, 2015, 06:40:39 PM
Quote from: littleman on January 08, 2015, 03:54:16 PM
Dras... 12 degrees, man.  I don't think I've ever been in weather that cold.

There is a beauty to very cold weather... I've gone out ice climbing at -30F and the whole world is still... now being out in that weather in shorts strikes me as a bad idea. Kudos for the motivation though Dras.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: jetboy on January 08, 2015, 07:02:54 PM
I'll come in on this from week 3 (19 Jan):

2 x 1 mile swim
3 x gym cardio/weights

Aiming to get back down to 72Kg/159lbs from whatever I'm at on the 19th; probably around 75Kg/165lbs.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: littleman on January 08, 2015, 07:42:29 PM
Alright JetBoy!  I look forward to seeing your updates on the 19th.  That's a pretty big commitment btw @ a total of 5x a week.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: Rumbas on January 09, 2015, 08:01:02 AM
>Keto

That's interesting Mackin. I've read a lot about it and how it could affect cancer cells among other good stuff. Keep us posted MF.
Title: KETO
Post by: Mackin USA on January 10, 2015, 03:27:04 PM
In reply to Viking:

http://www.mdanderson.org/patient-and-cancer-information/cancer-information/cancer-topics/prevention-and-screening/food/cancersugar.html

http://www.cancercenter.com/discussions/blog/does-sugar-feed-cancer/

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/cancer/in-depth/cancer-causes/art-20044714?pg=2

Since I've had Fucking Cancer twice, my concern is now Fucking Alzheimer's...
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: littleman on January 11, 2015, 12:56:24 AM
This is a good read on the topic too:
http://www.reddit.com/r/ketoscience/comments/22nlbu/is_there_a_role_for_carbohydrate_restriction_in/

That sub, /r/ketoscience/, actually has lots of info on keto as a cancer treatment.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: ergophobe on January 12, 2015, 03:27:20 AM
Week 1!

15 miles running plus some pushups and a bit of hiking

That goal seemed so modest when I set it. Then laid low by a cold this week and a mega workday on an overdue project from 8am to 1am on Sat and I had to really rally this morning to get out and run before going for a walk with my wife. Ah... the power of a stated, public commitment!

Thanks for organizing again LM!
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: Rupert on January 12, 2015, 05:17:17 AM
I am ducking out this round :(

Just back from a weeks skiing, and tore my calf on a small jump off piste.

Not too bad, so hoping to be back at least swimming in a couple of weeks, but it will be all rest for a bit now for me.

Great new start to the year folks. Looking good and motivated! 
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: gm66 on January 12, 2015, 01:28:17 PM
Sorry been madly busy.

My new commitment :

1. 3 times a week (Monday/Wednesday/Friday) exercise.
2. Stop drinking 8-12 pints on a Friday so that i'll stop feeling like crap all day Saturday.


Cheers,

Gary.

Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: Rumbas on January 12, 2015, 03:33:58 PM
Ok here goes:

Week 1: 3/4 Lifting and doing cardio.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: littleman on January 12, 2015, 04:02:23 PM
Rupert, I hope you have a speedy recovery.
Week 1: 4/4
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: Drastic on January 12, 2015, 05:13:12 PM
Yeah Rupert get healed up soon.

5/5 all gym
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: Rupert on January 13, 2015, 02:15:51 PM
Thx Guys.  Just been to the physio, and its only a small tear he says, so should get going again in a few weeks. Might be swimming in a week :)
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: ergophobe on January 19, 2015, 02:46:18 AM
A few weeks!?!? Bummer. Sorry to hear that.

15/15 (I know, everyone else is counting days, but sorry).

Three runs - 4, 5, and 6 miles respectively. Now that I'm an office drone, 6 miles is about as much as I feel I can do at lunch time and still feed my face.

I also have built a collection of lifting rocks in the woods behind the new job and did one workout there, plus a 9-mile mt bike ride and a little rockclimbing... not a bad week.

Speaking of rock climbing... President Obama tried to call our house on Wednesday because one of the climbers who has been in the media so much lately was staying in our rental (he's a long-time friend of ours, but his sponsor was paying, so we charged him just like general public ;-)

Unfortunately, the phone did not ring, so I can't say someone spoke to Obama on our house phone. Yet.

[edit: "did" => "did not"]
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: Rupert on January 19, 2015, 05:34:43 AM
Wow!  Those guys are amazing. so impressed. Not for me.

Great week ergophobe.  Well done.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: gm66 on January 19, 2015, 08:45:10 AM
Nice one Ergo!

3/3, cut down on beer, no fags during week.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: Drastic on January 19, 2015, 01:24:09 PM
4/5 gym. trouble sleeping last week and by Friday I was done. (better now)
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: littleman on January 19, 2015, 04:20:17 PM
Sounds like a great week for you Ergophobe.

>Friday I was done.

I hear you.  I usually do two workouts mid-week, and then another two during the weekend.  If something goes wrong on the weekend it could derail my target.  Saturday was fine, Sunday I went too long without eating and got a splitting headache.  I still went to the gym, but my head pounding made it not my best workout. 

Week 2 - 4/4
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: ergophobe on January 19, 2015, 10:31:22 PM
Friend took a picture today at lunch of me at my rock gym. The rocks are not heavy, but I estimate I can lift about half the weight I lift with a barbell... it's hard getting the right selection of weights too. I had a great rock for overhead squats (like in the picture), but it split in two last week, so now all my rocks are too heavy or too light ;-)
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: gm66 on January 19, 2015, 11:40:11 PM
That pic just makes me nervous, don't drop one of those buggers on yer head!
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: ergophobe on January 20, 2015, 01:52:54 AM
I don't think it's terribly dangerous in the overall context of things ;-)

When I was a ranger I used to give an evening program called "Staying Alive In Yosemite" and essentially tried to give people some good risk assessment tools. There were quite a few deaths that year and people were freaked out about various fairly traditional activities that weren't really particularly dangerous if people used a little bit of common sense.

I used to put up a slide with the number of deaths from drowning, falling off a cliff and so forth. Then I'd give the stats for death by heart disease and diabetes in America and would say "So remember, inactivities are more dangerous than activities" and show these images
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: Rumbas on January 20, 2015, 03:36:49 PM
Hehe, that's great Tom. Rock Gym, I like it.

>week 2

3/4.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: littleman on January 20, 2015, 04:56:07 PM
>inactivities are more dangerous than activities

Very true. 
Yet, the topic reminds me of a point that's been on my mind a lot lately.  I think it is important to get one's ego out of the way when exercising and to have sensible goals.  I've seen a lot of injuries from people pushing too heavy weight.  My personal goal isn't to be as strong as possible, I was stronger when I weighed 100 lbs. more anyway, and it would be difficult to get that strong again without the corresponding size.  My goals now are to look good (yeah, vanity), feel good, and maintain as much as I can for the long haul.

My personal rules for avoiding injuries are:
take the time to warmup
keep the rep range above 8
if it feels wrong, avoid it
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: nffc on January 21, 2015, 09:16:03 PM
>important to get one's ego out of the way

And the older you get the more important it becomes. Lighter weights but really good contraction should be a key aim. If the ego still flares, as it does, then hit the heavy bag, the sickening sound of a punch well thrown will echo throughout the gym.

I spend a lot of time in Asia, every gym has a punchbag, quite rare in the UK.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: ergophobe on January 22, 2015, 11:15:10 PM
LM - I think I've mentioned this before, but have you read the Lou Schuler "New Rules of Lifting" series?

The first was a bit of a blockbuster - New Rules of Lifting. But since then there's been (I think) NROL for Women, NROL for Abs, NROL over 50. Even if you're a man under 50 with abs of steel, they're all good, but because each one includes new research and what Lou and Allwyn have learned since the first.

Lou has been a lifter (of course) and fitness journalist for a few decades and reads widely. It's really no-nonsense and it fundamentally changed the way I warm up for things after 20? 30? years of exercising and lifting.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: littleman on January 23, 2015, 04:16:43 PM
You did mention him before, I'll give him a read.  It sounds like he has a lot to say about long term fitness.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: Mackin USA on January 25, 2015, 01:41:01 PM
NFFC I'm very OLD and still have all my EGO, I just can't remember where I put it.

In response to littleman asking for an update:

I'm 0.4 on the Keton Meter which means that I am now in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketosis

PS: Are we still planning a Savanna Adventure in April ??
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: jetboy on January 26, 2015, 11:58:31 AM
So, building up to this, as I'm an old bloke.

Week beginning 19/1:
2 (cardio only) gym workouts, 2 swims (462 metres and 858 metres), so 4/5

Start/end weight: 75.9Kg/75.2Kg (aiming for 72.0Kg)
Start/end body fat: 22.2%/19.9%

I expect to need another week to get the swimming up to a mile (1600 metres) per session, and I'll add weights in to the gym sessions then too.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: gm66 on January 26, 2015, 12:27:21 PM
3/3 home interval training.

huge cut down on fags, 4 per day max now, was 10-15 (rollies).

never really been a mid-week drinker but realised that i binge drink, since it's normally only on a friday and i seem not to be able to stop until i pass out!

So must do something about that, should stop altogether for a few months or learn to control myself ...

Our scales broke before xmas, bought some new ones and i've put on 3LB.

Alcohol is a real stumbling block for me.

Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: Rumbas on January 26, 2015, 12:27:38 PM
Week 3

1/4.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: Drastic on January 26, 2015, 01:09:00 PM
1/5, very rough week. Back at it today.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: ergophobe on January 26, 2015, 04:18:08 PM
Made according to the formula I laid out...

11 miles running + 15/3 miles hiking = 16 equiv miles

Also got in one rock lifting workout.

My Friday run was epic. I ran a trail I'd never been on which got thinner and thinner but was taking me by rocks and waterfalls and icefalls and so I kept going, but then thought I was pretty sure of where I was and could shortcut quickly through the woods, pick up a fire road and take it back to work. In point of fact I was about 45 degrees off and headed into miles and miles of roadless wilderness. I started to realize it, veered left, eventually picked up a single-track horse trail, followed it through a gorgeous area and made it back to work. I'd been gone 1:45 for my 45-min run. Co-workers (I'm an office drone these days) were starting to worry. So was I at one point. A little over a mile was thrashing through thick manzanita, whitethorn and deadfall. Got back to work late, dirty and cut all to hell. Glad that my subconscious sense of direction eventually overrode from my conscious but incorrect memory of the map otherwise I might have been running all night!
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: littleman on January 26, 2015, 04:51:46 PM
Mackin, congrats for getting into ketosis.  Do you feel different now that your brain is running on brain running on ketones?

Jetboy, nice first week effort!  That is quite a drop in body fat percentage.

Gm66, good job cutting the cigs down -- I know it isn't easy.

Rumbas & Dras, I hope next week is better for you guys, at least you got one workout in.

Ergophobe, wow, what you do for workouts could literally kill someone who doesn't know what he's doing.

Week 3 - 4/4
Down another pound and dipping into the high twelves on the body fat meter.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: ergophobe on January 27, 2015, 12:00:41 AM
Quote from: littleman on January 26, 2015, 04:51:46 PM
Ergophobe, wow, what you do for workouts could literally kill someone who doesn't know what he's doing.

I think I'm presenting it wrong. It was just a bit of a bushwhack. I could have always turned around and bushwhacked back instead of pressing on. I might have gotten a lot of people pissed off if I had been way overdue and a rescue had been sent out, but it's not cold here despite the season, so I would have been fine out there overnight.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: littleman on January 27, 2015, 03:58:04 PM
Right.  It's January, and I forgot that there hasn't been a good storm in California in about a month and that it is almost Spring like out there.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: ergophobe on January 27, 2015, 04:39:49 PM
Quote from: littleman on January 27, 2015, 03:58:04 PM
Right.  It's January, and I forgot that there hasn't been a good storm in California in about a month and that it is almost Spring like out there.

Exactly. Sad though it may be, I was actually in SHORTS... in January... at 6000 feet. Night time lows are around 45 degrees. Similar situation in Vermont at zero degrees out could indeed be fatal. My situation would have resulted in hungry, tired and embarrassed, the latter being the biggest risk.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: Mackin USA on January 28, 2015, 02:21:59 PM
LM
Mackin, congrats for getting into ketosis.  Do you feel different now that your brain is running on brain running on ketones?

I'm just not sure YET

My brain has always been in the GUTTER  ;D
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: Rumbas on January 28, 2015, 02:36:34 PM
>Do you feel different now that your brain is running on ketones?

Please keep us posted MM!
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: littleman on February 02, 2015, 03:57:54 PM
Week 4 - 4/4
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: gm66 on February 02, 2015, 04:02:05 PM
3/3 but i've put on 3lb ??
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: Drastic on February 02, 2015, 04:04:01 PM
4/5
2nd leg day my legs and abs (crunches) were too sore and I wasn't up for all cardio. Planned to makeup on Sat but ended up working 14 hours instead.
in my book 14hr workday = excuse granted
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: gm66 on February 02, 2015, 04:08:12 PM
Quote from: Drastic on February 02, 2015, 04:04:01 PM
4/5
2nd leg day my legs and abs (crunches) were too sore and I wasn't up for all cardio. Planned to makeup on Sat but ended up working 14 hours instead.
in my book 14hr workday = excuse granted

That's why i switched to 3 a week, unforseen stuff etc, 3 is more manageable.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: littleman on February 02, 2015, 04:12:57 PM
>3/3 but i've put on 3lb ??

One thing I've leaned is that weight loss is at least 80% diet.

>in my book 14hr workday = excuse granted
>>3 is more manageable.

Dras likes to shoot high!  Four workouts in a week is pretty damn good, even if it isn't the target.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: ergophobe on February 02, 2015, 04:38:44 PM
15/15
2.5-mile run
5.5 mile run (found gorgeous new trail)
11 mile mt bike ride - 3.3 miles equiv
12 mile mt bike ride - 4 miles equiv (cool "new" trail right from my house).

Kind of a slacker week, but one of those would not have happened at all and both MTB rides would have been shorter (and I wouldn't have explored a new trail) if not for my CC mileage goal.

>>3 is more manageable.

My approach to goals is
- long term: pick some things that are big.
- short term: pick a small action that is slightly more than you would do if you didn't have a goal, so you rack up wins, rather than racking up losses, which for me saps motivation.

I used to practice this (and go there so rarely these days I forgot how many ads I plastered there). Might have to go back to it, but for now I'm trying to do Matt Cutts style 30-day challenges (January, failed miserably - goal was one letter on paper dropped in the actual mail to a friend every day, but only managed 14).

http://raisedbyturtles.org/make-slacking-hurt/

And I still believe this
http://raisedbyturtles.org/focus-on-tasks-not-goals/
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: Rumbas on February 02, 2015, 07:05:38 PM
Week 4
2/4
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: jetboy on February 04, 2015, 08:10:51 AM
Week 4 (week 2 for me):

3/5. A busy week, but the one swim was 1300m, so getting closer to the mile. This week is likely to be worse.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: Rupert on February 04, 2015, 01:01:37 PM
Getting better here, but following all of your progress, if not performing :)  Had a couple of 3 mile walks over the w/e that really did some good stretching on my calves, and no badness.

Jetboy, they are good long swims, you are building it well. I might start swimming soon, I should be fine with crawl now.

Feb now... in the UK its getting lighter :)  New boat bought, new engine ( second hand) and so it all needs putting together ready for waterskiing this summer.   Planning to be fit enough for that as a goal.  Ah, Sue has booked me into 2 triathlons... and a third is on the list too: 
http://angleseysandman.com/
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: ergophobe on February 05, 2015, 03:23:59 AM
Quote from: jetboy on February 04, 2015, 08:10:51 AM
Week 4 (week 2 for me):

3/5. A busy week, but the one swim was 1300m, so getting closer to the mile. This week is likely to be worse.

I think I would drown somewhere around the 1000m mark ;-)
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: littleman on February 05, 2015, 05:23:15 AM
>My approach to goals

This is actually a topic I think a lot about.  I am very far from perfect in many aspects of my life, but when it comes to fitness I just made up my mind that I'm going to keep improving.

I agree with Yoda on this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ4yd2W50No

You have to believe that it is going to happen and that you will do what you need to do to make it so.  Trying is really the same as starting something with the intention of giving up eventually.  In your mind you have to know that you will do what it takes and then the steps that need to happen feel like they have happened already.  Or, like it is your destiny and you can't go against it.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: Rupert on February 05, 2015, 08:16:27 AM
This is the version I tell my daughter..  If only she would listen:

QuoteWhether you think you can, or you think you can't--you're right.

and this

QuoteWinners never quit and quitters never win.

Damn, wrong forum.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: gm66 on February 05, 2015, 09:01:29 AM
Just watched Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead on youtube, quite moving, uplifting in the end and a testament to juicing.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: gm66 on February 05, 2015, 09:02:20 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mS0YA465ts
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: Drastic on February 05, 2015, 03:17:56 PM
>Just watched Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead
Now watch forks over knives. It's on netflix.

That vid isn't viewable in US.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: Rumbas on February 05, 2015, 03:29:31 PM
>Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead

Yeah, watched it a while ago and made me think about dusting off the juicer again.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: littleman on February 05, 2015, 05:04:10 PM
I saw the movie and it is impressive.  I remember the scene where he asks the fat people how long they re going to live and they reply some very short time-span.  I've tried that with some of my obese friends and have gotten very similar answers.

I have two issue with juicing:
it is expensive
you toss the fiber

I'd rather just eat my fruits and vegetables.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: gm66 on February 05, 2015, 05:06:01 PM
Yes it is expensive, especially organic. But what cost health ?

I put the veggie fibre in soups.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: Drastic on February 05, 2015, 10:41:58 PM
You guys need to blend, not juice, you waste nothing.

Vitamix or Blendtec...I have a green drink every morning first thing.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: gm66 on February 06, 2015, 09:17:37 AM
Trouble is with blending it's usually centrifugal and high speed, so the heat from the friction destroys around 50% of the good stuff.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: jetboy on February 06, 2015, 10:03:43 AM
QuoteTrouble is with blending it's usually centrifugal and high speed, so the heat from the friction destroys around 50% of the good stuff.

Maybe with a regular blender. We bought a Vitamix after it was evangelised on Th3 Core, and despite looking like something from Soviet Russia, it's pretty special. It'll make a fair approximation of ice cream because it blends so efficiently that the job is done before the heat builds up to melt the ice.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: gm66 on February 06, 2015, 11:15:35 AM
Nice info, looks very good, five times the price of my juicre but looks good !

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vitamix-Aspire-Planitum-Black-Food-Mixer-blender-5-year-warranty-brand-new-/161335626166?pt=UK_HGKitchen_SmallApp_RL&hash=item25905a49b6
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: ergophobe on February 06, 2015, 01:45:27 PM
OK, I love my Vitamix and prefer veggie smoothies to juicing for all the reasons mentioned, but a couple of reality checks.

1. If you let it run, the Vitamix will heat hot enough to make hot soup. It takes a long time and is less efficient than putting the puree in a pot, but eventually it will get steaming hot.

2. A blended food is not as nutritious as the same food in its whole form. You have broken the fiber way down (though still nothing like juicing where you've left much of the good stuff on the compost heap and created a sugary concoction stripped of any fiber). I do smoothies because I'm a lazy SOB, but if I weren't, I'd eat the veggies whole as God and Alice Waters and intended. I see smoothies as better than not getting veggies and quite often that is my alternative because, as mentioned, I'm a lazy SOB. The Vitamix bumped up y veggie consumption, though, no doubt about that.

3. Seriously, small amount of heat does not get rid of "half the good stuff". Heat kills some nutrients and unlocks others that you wouldn't get at without the breakdown heat does. Yes, if everything is cooked to death, you'll be destroying the same nutrients over and over and that would be bad. But if you're a lazy SOB like me and your options are a) eating something fundamentally healthy that's been whirred up, broken down and heated up a little or b) pulling out a block of cheese and cutting off a giant slice, the Vitamix is undeniably your friend.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: jetboy on February 08, 2015, 01:12:19 PM
Week 5 (week 3 for me):

2/5, but both one mile swims, so pretty happy with that.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: littleman on February 09, 2015, 07:11:44 AM
Week 5 - 4/4
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: Rupert on February 09, 2015, 10:00:51 AM
Quoteboth one mile swims, so pretty happy with that.

awesome :)
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: Drastic on February 09, 2015, 02:14:07 PM
3/5 last week.

Started testing a nootropic stack (smart drugs) and it's messing with sleep a bit. Will get it sorted.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: Rumbas on February 09, 2015, 04:07:47 PM
Week 5 - 2/4
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: littleman on February 09, 2015, 04:25:21 PM
>nootropic

Interesting.  I've always thought of this as overcklocking a CPU -- you get more performance, but are pushing against the design limits.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: ergophobe on February 09, 2015, 07:07:22 PM
hard week... made a long, slow, tired run in the rain yesterday to make my goal

16 miles running, one "weight" session (rock lifting) and one indoor climbing session... of which zero miles of running would have happened with the Commit
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: Drastic on February 09, 2015, 11:37:48 PM
>Interesting.  I've always thought of this as overcklocking a CPU -- you get more performance, but are pushing against the design limits.

Lots of different things are nootropics. What I'm doing is based on caffeine and theanine, and the go-go part isn't any worse than coffee. The theanine gives mental boosts to focus, energy, drive and memory and has some other positive effects/properties. Little to no side effects. The stuff works!
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: littleman on February 10, 2015, 02:09:32 AM
Thanks for the information.  Could you let us know how it goes?  Its a pretty interesting topic.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: Drastic on February 10, 2015, 02:21:41 PM
Sure, I'll create a new thread.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: littleman on February 17, 2015, 03:49:29 PM
Week 6 - 4/4
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: jetboy on February 17, 2015, 04:08:04 PM
Week 6 (week 4 for me):

0/5. This week's unlikely to be any better.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: Drastic on February 17, 2015, 05:17:27 PM
4/5... pulled a 14 hour day and the next day was legday2 so I said meh.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: ergophobe on February 20, 2015, 04:44:52 AM
Late reporting....

I only ran 10.8 miles, but I did go for a 12-mile bike/hike to a small peak near my house - only 5 parties in the summit register since 2011 and I knew three of them!

Also jugged* up the East Ledges of El Cap and hiked out to the brink of Ribbon Falls (see photo - I'm in the upper left), the tallest single-drop waterfall in North America, they tell me (1612 feet). Also not commonly visited though it's less than a mile from the trail. That was 9 miles and abour 4000 feet of vertical gain.

Met a woman on top of El Cap that runs 50-100 miles per week. Made me feel like a slacker, but she's probably not so far behind on so many things as I am ;-)

So not quite what I'd like, but not too bad... this week isn't looking good though

*jug (verb): (1) to ascend a rope with mechanical ascenders, often called "jugs", a nickname for Jumars, the original ascenders and for the fact that it's like always having a "jug" (2) to hold on to. (2) a large handhold when rock climbing that permits you to wrap most of your hand around it like a jug handle.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: creative666 on February 20, 2015, 07:51:41 AM
Late to the party;

Committing to 4 work outs a week
Clean up my diet (reduce carb and sugar intake drastically)
Drop 15KG's this year

So far I've lost 4KG, hit the 4 work outs a week target and the diet is on track - I'd kill for a steak sandwich right now and it's only 10am  ;D
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: littleman on February 20, 2015, 03:58:43 PM
Ergophobe, your workouts are always such an adventure.  Beautiful shot btw.

Creative666, congrats on the 4KG drop!

>steak sandwich

For me its Indian food, I've been craving it for months.  After that, I'd say some Mexican food.  One thing about eating low carb though is that you do got to still eat some pretty satisfying food.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: ergophobe on February 20, 2015, 04:11:58 PM
Not "always" but I do promise the Missus that pretty much whatever else I have on my plate, I'll allocate one day to adventure each week. Last week was 1.5 (the Pinoche Peak adventure was awesome, but it was only 4 hrs round trip and didn't even involve a car... I can't believe it took us 12 years living here to get there).

Theresa has gotten very interested in photography, so I tend to be her model these days... from whence my new joke. What's the difference between a cop and a photographer? A cop says "Stop or I'll shoot" and the photographer says "Stop or I won't shoot."
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: Rupert on February 20, 2015, 05:07:49 PM
Quote(see photo - I'm in the upper left)
That has my hands sweating looking at you standing there... 
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: ergophobe on February 20, 2015, 05:47:16 PM
Two minutes later I was on the pointy promontory below where I am in that pick. From that spot you can wedge your leg in the crack and lean over the edge and see pretty much the whole of the falls. ;-)
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: littleman on February 23, 2015, 12:09:22 AM
Week 7 - 4/4 hovering around 12.5% body fat right now. 
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: jetboy on February 23, 2015, 11:38:21 AM
QuoteTheresa has gotten very interested in photography...

Aeli (my partner) likes wildlife photography. She came home from work with £5K 500mm lens a couple of weeks ago. It's pretty much tripod-only due to its weight, but it's an impressive piece of kit.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: Drastic on February 23, 2015, 02:38:44 PM
3/5, ice storm shuttered the gym one day...and got sick of 12-14 degrees every morning.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: gm66 on February 23, 2015, 04:45:18 PM
Dad passed away last Wednesday so not had the motivation.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: littleman on February 23, 2015, 04:53:34 PM
Sorry about the sad news Gary.  My condolences to you and your family.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: Drastic on February 23, 2015, 07:11:10 PM
Very sorry to hear gm. Get in there when you can and get those endorphins flowing.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: Rupert on February 25, 2015, 09:23:32 PM
Oh sh1t. Sorry to hear that. I hope he was not in pain.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: gm66 on February 25, 2015, 10:43:58 PM
Thanks all, it was his 2nd stroke in 6 months and was massive, he didn't come out of it so passed away pain-free and in peace.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: ergophobe on February 27, 2015, 05:24:30 PM
Late to report... Last week was a travel week. Lots of car time, dessert and fine food. Has its pleasures

13 miles running and 1 day rock climbing. Didn't quite make my goal of 15 miles min. I realized on Friday it wasn't going to happen so I ran 10 miles over my lunch more-than-hour... but didn't get those last two done.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: Mackin USA on February 28, 2015, 01:52:40 PM
My latest report:

1) MRI
2) CTA of the brain with and without contrast
3) Arch aortography, B carotid and cerebral angiography, Left subclavian angiography

RESULTS:

I'm doing great for my age.  Cool
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: Drastic on February 28, 2015, 07:19:35 PM
excellent report mf! Glad to hear.

1/5 for me this week. Got a minor bug, still dealing with it.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: littleman on March 01, 2015, 01:30:55 AM
Yes, very good news there Mr. Mackin.  Do you feel like the ketogenic diet is helping you?
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: Rupert on March 02, 2015, 12:51:53 PM
I  did not know  if that was good or bad, so waited for others to post. So great News Mr Mackin!
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: Mackin USA on March 02, 2015, 03:56:13 PM
LM
Ketogenic Lifestyle is great.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: littleman on March 02, 2015, 04:14:49 PM
Week 8 - 4/4
Slipped a little diet wise, but not too badly.  Still doing push/pull twice a week....Weight stagnant.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: ergophobe on March 06, 2015, 07:22:31 PM
Last week was awful 6/15 miles.

This week is going worse, but I'll make up some on the weekend.

On the plus side, a long troubled project that I failed to wrap up before taking a full-time job is finally coming together and I think by the end of this weekend, the heavy lifting will be done. Really looking forward to getting back to my slacker ways, at least until the next interesting thing comes along.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: gm66 on March 07, 2015, 03:42:35 AM
For those of you that feel you haven't quite made your personal targets, at least we're alive with something to shoot for and some headway has been made :)

I haven't done any exercise in the last couple of weeks but i've stopped smoking tobacco for ten days now, and i no longer drink during the week, as well as no longer over-drinking when i do drink.

I realised recently that i was becoming what we in the UK call a 'lush' - someone that can only cope with other people while pissed and who is a disinterested bastard at all other times.

I didn't like that view so it's changed now. I promised my Dad, and that's a promise i won't be breaking.

Sometimes we need to be shoved into sensibility.

x

Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: buckworks on March 07, 2015, 05:50:11 PM
Quotestopped smoking tobacco for ten days now

That deserves a huge cheer!

Aside from the health benefits, you'll smell better to be close to and you'll taste better to kiss!

:-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: littleman on March 09, 2015, 02:55:52 PM
Week 9 - 4/4
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: Drastic on March 09, 2015, 04:20:43 PM
congrats gm.

1/5 still having trouble fighting off the bug. Mondays I feel good and workout and that's it for the week, just no energy whatsoever.

Hoping tomorrow will be better, got my workout in this morning.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: littleman on March 16, 2015, 04:08:42 PM
Week 10 - 4/4

Wow, this round is already over!  That was fast.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: Rupert on March 16, 2015, 04:49:47 PM
Well done everyone, Some inspirational efforts there in what in the UK is certainly the most depressing 2 months of the year.  cold, wet and Dark.

With the light nights starting this weekend, I am looking forward to everything feeling mentally easier.  Hope you all are too.

I still have a swollen leg, but its not so bad, I can walk very well, and have been stretching and rolling so about ready to get moving in commit round 2.

So with no reason at all to complain....  I probably will :) Count me in for the next one..
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: Drastic on March 16, 2015, 06:05:17 PM
Well finished off last week for 3/5 I think. Feeling much better and ready to hammer away this week.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: ergophobe on March 22, 2015, 12:45:42 AM
Rough couple of weeks, but this week got more or less back on track - 13 miles running (3 runs), a decent bit of lifting rocks, a good say of cutting and hauling brush today, and a rock climb tomorrow.

No real exercise for the body but some for the spirit in terms of old dogs trying new tricks. I went to the race track for the first time last weekend to watch my nephew race in the Spec Miata class. Between race events, though, there are "driver events" where they can take passengers. I rode in his car, a BMW E30 race car and a rental Ford Fusion. The Ford Fusion was the best by far. The driver had his race car in the shop, so he rented an automatic transmission Fusion and brought it to the track. It was unbelievable. Like being in a car chase movie. Slower, but infinitely more exciting, than the race cars. Plus he was a good driver, so except on the straightaway we were pretty much hanging with a lot of fancy cars with lesser drivers (Sonoma Raceway - tight, turny and hilly). While I was riding the Fusion, Theresa was riding in a McLaren P1.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: littleman on March 23, 2015, 03:09:05 PM
Sounds like an amazing time.  Those Fusions are suppose to be quite nimble from what I've read. 
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: gm66 on April 15, 2016, 12:27:20 PM
I'm buying a rowing machine, plan is to lose the beer-fat, tone the muscles, then start on weights.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: littleman on April 15, 2016, 03:22:08 PM
Cool, maybe you could join us in round two when you get set up?
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: ergophobe on April 15, 2016, 04:36:10 PM
In particular... join us here: http://th3core.com/talk/water-coolerextra/core-commit-to-health-fitness-2016-round-two-march-14-may-16/

and tell us what you're up to each week :-)
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2015, Round One: Jan 5 - Mar 15
Post by: gm66 on April 17, 2016, 11:07:18 AM
Quote from: ergophobe on April 15, 2016, 04:36:10 PM
In particular... join us here: http://th3core.com/talk/water-coolerextra/core-commit-to-health-fitness-2016-round-two-march-14-may-16/

and tell us what you're up to each week :-)

wilco