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Why We Are Here => Water Cooler => Topic started by: rcjordan on September 17, 2015, 12:10:33 PM

Title: U.S. fuel efficiency keeps demand flat
Post by: rcjordan on September 17, 2015, 12:10:33 PM
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Energy-Industry/2015/09/17/US-gasoline-demand-flattens-out/8941442482585/

in related news, Canada's oil-based economy is pretty much screwed.

Canadian natural gas exports to U.S. plummet
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Energy-Industry/2015/09/17/Canadian-gas-exports-to-US-plummet/7811442489232/

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Canadian economy enters recession
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-34116189
Title: Re: U.S. fuel efficiency keeps demand flat
Post by: Mackin USA on September 17, 2015, 01:24:55 PM
Armed Conflict in the Middle East may change the outlook for oil.

IMO
We need more coal fired power plants to fuel electric cars  ;D
Title: Re: U.S. fuel efficiency keeps demand flat
Post by: rcjordan on September 17, 2015, 05:04:42 PM
Oil may change the outlook for armed conflict in the Middle East.  Basically, if we become non-OPEC-dependent then the general attitude here will be 'let those fuckers go pound sand.'

Debbie says we've crossed some kind of line in oil/coal and we ain't going back.  The response to any tightening of fuel pricing is going to be to turn up the technology on alt fuels.  We're more than ready to be done with this crap, at least to whatever extent is possible.
Title: Re: U.S. fuel efficiency keeps demand flat
Post by: Mackin USA on September 17, 2015, 08:19:35 PM
'let those f###ers go pound sand.'

Would it not be GREAT
Title: Re: U.S. fuel efficiency keeps demand flat
Post by: BoL on September 17, 2015, 09:55:58 PM
When they crack this nut we can look forward to 95% efficiency of solar -> chemical energy

http://phys.org/news/2014-01-quantum-mechanics-efficiency-photosynthesis.html

Apparently when a photon enters the photosynthetic factory... it finds the right place to go by travelling to all destinations at the same time. Highly efficient when all your wrong answers are also the right one!

There's always nuclear if we don't manage to find a suitable alternative soon.
Title: Re: U.S. fuel efficiency keeps demand flat
Post by: rcjordan on September 17, 2015, 11:26:18 PM
>alt soon

From what I'm reading, if you stripped away all the gov subsidies for petroleum/coal, solar/wind is starting to edge close to price parity.