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Why We Are Here => Water Cooler => Topic started by: Mackin USA on November 05, 2016, 03:46:03 PM

Title: Elon Musk: Robots will take your jobs, government will have to pay your wage
Post by: Mackin USA on November 05, 2016, 03:46:03 PM
In a country with universal basic income, each individual gets a regular check from the government. Switzerland considered instituting a universal basic income of 2,500 Swiss francs ($2578) a month this summer. Voters ultimately rejected the plan, but it sparked a broad, global conversation.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/04/elon-musk-robots-will-take-your-jobs-government-will-have-to-pay-your-wage.html
Title: Re: Elon Musk: Robots will take your jobs, government will have to pay your wage
Post by: Chunkford on November 05, 2016, 05:49:10 PM
Governments will need to do something as they are forcing the situation.
Was speaking to store manager the other day, and he was telling me because of the minimum wage increases in the UK they were having to install self-service checkouts to reduce the number of staff they have on the books.
Title: Re: Elon Musk: Robots will take your jobs, government will have to pay your wage
Post by: littleman on November 05, 2016, 09:13:30 PM
Self service checkouts are already all over stores in the US.
Title: Re: Elon Musk: Robots will take your jobs, government will have to pay your wage
Post by: Chunkford on November 07, 2016, 02:18:50 PM
Yea, they're pretty common over here in the UK too.
It just didn't dawn on me that the UK Government is pushing the situation with the minimum wage increases.
Double edge sword and all that.
Title: Re: Elon Musk: Robots will take your jobs, government will have to pay your wage
Post by: ergophobe on November 07, 2016, 05:52:01 PM
Littleman - I saw this article come up in my feed and thought: "I think LM is going to win the bet about when UBI becomes a significant campaign issue."
Title: Re: Elon Musk: Robots will take your jobs, government will have to pay your wage
Post by: littleman on November 07, 2016, 09:47:33 PM
It is starting to get on people's radar -- particularly Millennials.  Though it hasn't happen yet, I think the idea will gain support with the 50-75 year old demographic as a lot of their jobs become automated -- the type of folks who are out there working for near minimum wage to supplement their "retirement".
Title: Re: Elon Musk: Robots will take your jobs, government will have to pay your wage
Post by: Mackin USA on November 08, 2016, 12:09:38 PM
GOOD READ

"Allowing economies to go fallow because of widespread unemployment and poverty would bankrupt nations faster," he says. "What's more, a basic income guarantee would start by combining existing social welfare payments, reducing the size of the bureaucracies needed to maintain each of them separately. So the burden of the state would shrink. Various public resources can be monetized, as Alaska has done with Alaskan oil, the proceeds of which are distributed as payments to Alaskans. But we will need redistribution of wealth to sustain a BIG. There is enormous wealth being created by technological innovations, but it is mostly being sucked up by the top 1% of the population."

http://io9.gizmodo.com/how-universal-basic-income-will-save-us-from-the-robot-1653303459
Title: Re: Elon Musk: Robots will take your jobs, government will have to pay your wage
Post by: Rupert on November 10, 2016, 07:16:02 PM
Can you help me out here:  UBI ?

   Do you mean Unrelated Business Income?
Title: Re: Elon Musk: Robots will take your jobs, government will have to pay your wage
Post by: nffc on November 10, 2016, 10:43:19 PM
Universal basic income.
Title: Re: Elon Musk: Robots will take your jobs, government will have to pay your wage
Post by: Rupert on November 10, 2016, 10:48:11 PM
Ah of course.  Benefits.