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Title: US: Rule 41 gets new, BIG teeth re VPN, Tor
Post by: rcjordan on December 07, 2016, 02:21:33 PM
QuoteToday's changes allow judges to issue warrants for federal agencies to remotely access, search, seize and copy digital information that's been concealed via anonymizing software like Tor or a VPN. The changes also allow judges to grant warrants for the search, seizure and copying of information on any connected device that's attacked in a hacking campaign.


https://www.engadget.com/2016/12/01/rule-41-fbi-doj-hacking-power-expand-search-seizure/
Title: Re: US: Rule 41 gets new, BIG teeth re VPN, Tor
Post by: Rooftop on December 08, 2016, 01:33:10 PM
wow - talk about treating victims as criminals
Title: Re: US: Rule 41 gets new, BIG teeth re VPN, Tor
Post by: rcjordan on December 08, 2016, 01:56:05 PM
For the porn censoring (and other gov fishing expeditions) UK will end up with much the same, either declared or clandestine.

>porn

You can't help but notice how 'protecting the children' is always touted as the reason behind these privacy invasions.
Title: Re: US: Rule 41 gets new, BIG teeth re VPN, Tor
Post by: ergophobe on December 08, 2016, 05:28:56 PM
Scary thought - my webcam and Nest thermostat and smart lightbulbs and so on are attached to my router is attached to other router is attached to my other router is attached to my computer (hat tip Bill).

FBI wants to see my computer along with thousands of other people they find mildly suspicious

FBI locates my IP and scans for any hackable devices on the network... then keeps scanning until one of them gets hacked and voila! They now have a warrant to search my computer because my lightbulb got hacked.

That's the "nice" scenario. Given the Snowden revelations, the "not nice" scenario is they put the malware on my lightbulb, then go get the warrant.
Title: Re: US: Rule 41 gets new, BIG teeth re VPN, Tor
Post by: rcjordan on December 08, 2016, 05:32:36 PM
A scarier scenario, imo, is that some vacation renter is into <teen porn and it gets associated with your IP.
Title: Re: US: Rule 41 gets new, BIG teeth re VPN, Tor
Post by: Travoli on December 08, 2016, 05:38:14 PM
keeps scanning until one of them gets hacked

hacks one

:o
Title: Re: US: Rule 41 gets new, BIG teeth re VPN, Tor
Post by: ergophobe on December 08, 2016, 07:52:08 PM
Quote from: rcjordan on December 08, 2016, 05:32:36 PM
A scarier scenario, imo, is that some vacation renter is into <teen porn and it gets associated with your IP.

Not entirely theoretical. We have gotten C&Ds from HBO lawyers based on vacation renter activity.