I don't think it's out there ...particularly if it works with Alexa.
https://homeawesomation.wordpress.com/2012/11/11/which-thermostat-to-choose/
Heh, had just looked at the CT100 but missed the other models. Thanks.
Also interesting:
http://www.hestiapi.com/
Rpi-based
ct50 was white-labeled by Home Depot as Filtrete 3m-50
https://www.reddit.com/r/amazonecho/comments/3b95qx/i_got_alexa_controlling_my_filtrete_thermostat/
no problem... I've kind of had the same idea, but have never gotten around to researching it.
I'm sorting through this, but no (easy) joy. yet.
https://ask.slashdot.org/story/16/05/21/0313204/ask-slashdot-can-you-have-a-smart-home-thats-not-in-the-cloud
so far, looks to be best option
http://www.homeseer.com/
In my research to date, Z-wave is surfacing as the protocol of interest. Here's a light-dimming set-up using raspberry pi + "Domoticz" software. This means an initial outlay of about $70 for the pi+Zwave adaptor, and then a cost of $40 per room, approximately 1/3rd the cost of the least expensive off-the-shelf systems.
Alexa-Domoticz bridge - https://github.com/madgeni/alexa_domo
Razberry - the Z-wave adaptor for the pi - http://razberry.z-wave.me/
Domoticz - home automation software (free) - https://www.domoticz.com/
(US) GE Dimmers - https://www.amazon.com/GE-Dimmer-Z-Wave-12724-Amazon/dp/B006LQFHN2
(UK) Fibario Dimmers - http://www.vesternet.com/z-wave-fibaro-universal-dimmer-2-250w
sourced from reddit
https://www.reddit.com/r/amazonecho/comments/5l19i1/alexa_and_home_automation_on_a_budget/dbsgr1n/
Tap. Tap. Is this thing on?
In reading around on smarthomes, there appears to be a possible OTShelf contender (with some concerns about how optional their cloud is/isn't) --the Vera Plus ($150).
Worth a read:
https://community.smartthings.com/t/migrating-from-smartthings-to-vera-plus/50780/19
Vera is mfr by Mios, and it appears Mios is going to get a big boost from Amz at CES 2017.
http://www.cepro.com/article/intel_amazon_to_demo_tiny_smart_home_at_ces_2017_powered_by_mios
Cheapish usb dongle looks good for lan-only z-wave hub.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00X0AWA6E
Recent reviews are running high, but this one says he's got it running echo so he can 'yell at his light bulbs'
https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R2U6W4RYXVVQUW/ref=cm_cr_getr_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B00X0AWA6E
Quote from: rcjordan on December 31, 2016, 05:20:38 PM
Tap. Tap. Is this thing on?
Ha ha! Yeah, it's on, but like any good student, I'm waiting for someone else to do all the work so I can copy ;-)
No, this is pretty backburner for me... more in the "hmm... would that be useful?" phase than the "I want one" phase.
Bezos just said (through the Dot on my wife's nightstand) that if I could sell Bill on one of these, he'd give me a $5 credit on my account.
Finally looked through all those links...
The thing is, I want something that nobody can talk to. My main reason for wanting this is to be able to turn off the heat in the rental when it's empty.
The reason I was looking for LAN-only at one point is because of the extremely high latency in our system (most of the home automation stuff will not connect over satellite because of the latency). We threw a lot of money at the problem and got the latency down, but then I was thinking "Why should some server in Singapore be controlling the thermostat that's 50 feet away?"
I rather like the idea of a Nest that doesn't ping the parent company all the time.
Any idea how well these things do in a power outage, which is a common occurrence here?
>power outage
I've skimmed some chatter on that but that issue wasn't big with me so I didn't log it. IIRC, the new Vera rec'd good marks on that. I'll keep it in mind.
One quick thought is taking the Rpi + usb-powered, dedicated wifi route. With their low power consumption, you could easily cobble together a 12vdc power hub using a trickle charger, inverter, and a sla battery --all OTShelf for approx $100 total. Note that is is not a switching standby system but a system that runs off the battery all the time. The trickle charger just drops out of the system when the power fails and kicks back in when it's back on. If you have prolonged outages, you could get more 12vdc storage by simply paralleling cheap batteries and using a 2-, or even 4-, gang 120vac "battery minder." I have 2 4-gang units running all the time here, but they're just keeping the batteries charged, no inverter connected.
>>One quick thought is taking the Rpi + usb-powered, dedicated wifi route.
Aren't you the one who, when I mentioned Gargoyle, said "You're confusing me with someone who wants to f### with IP addresses" or something to that effect?
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Oh yeah.. that was you...
"I'm sorry, you must have mistaken me for someone who wants to f### with IP numbers, hhh."
-- http://th3core.com/talk/hardware-technology/netgear-nighthawk-ac1900-dual-band-wi-fi-gigabit-router/
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;-)
> you must have mistaken me for someone who wants to f### with IP numbers
Yeah, that's me, and I haven't really changed. Those devices I happen to own that emit their own wi-fi (or serve html in the case of some larger appliances) and I just sign in have me thinking I have the right mindset, too. LAST thing I want is to be assembling some custom-crafted solution. I've had my fill of supporting my brilliant solutions to life's problems, hhh. I'm Luddite by choice on this. (As a young man, I made a similar decision about learning electronics, schematics, etc. and while I _very_ often regret not knowing a diode from a resistor, it was the right choice.)
**BUT**
Now we're in the Disposable Age replete with cheap Chinee goodies and I happen to be able to afford modest experimentation. Take the standalone wifi hub I asked about. Hell, I could just buy one, plug it in and see if it works. If it's a hit, great! If it's a miss, oh well, throw it in a box. I'm not being cavalier about the $35, but my track record indicates that I tend to come out ahead on these bets. The BIG problem, though, is that I don't have the time for my projects as-is, and these experiments always become projects.
SO, the Rpi might work for you for smart climate control but I'll probably go with the Vera so I can have a vendor to blame for the crappy UI. I'm just waiting for CES 2017 to hit my news reader.
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BTW, climate control is the hardest of the smarthome problems. We could just make a few lights work on an app like most people do and be happy, hhh.
>latency
Bezos re the Echo: "Let me give you the pain upfront: Your target for latency is one second."
Actually, I'm right there with you - I have enough unfinished projects without dreaming up new ones.
I grew up in a culture where people generally fixed their own cars and built stuff - much of the furniture in my house was made by my grandfather. It wasn't until I was in my late 20s that a friend pointed out that for a sum of money, often quite a small sum of money, you can make "projects" you don't enjoy go away.
So, no, not looking to cobble together something with RPi unless I think I would get something out of it I could do 20 more times for a decent profit.
Then bookmark this and wait 6 months. It's my top contender. Z-wave, so it should drive that t-stat you posted.
https://www.amazon.com/Vera-Control-VeraPlus-US-Smart-Controller/product-reviews/B01BX9P89Y/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_viewopt_rvwer?ie=UTF8&reviewerType=all_reviews&showViewpoints=1&sortBy=recent&pageNumber=1
Reminder set... Realistically, it would take me six months to get to this anyway.
I think I'll muddle through this winter and grit my teeth when people leave the door open for 45 minutes to load the car while the thermostat is set to 76 degrees (no kidding - Southern Californians are utterly clueless about this and do it constantly; growing up in Vermont, this was guaranteed to get you yelled at, possibly hit).
But we just added A/C...
It occurs to me that I've seen sensors that tell you if a door or window is open, so in theory you could probably set up a simple decision tree
- if door or window is open
- heating/cooling system is shut down
Manufacturer got called out on security. Answered in comments.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R3N4HVKMDPQ04I/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B01BX9P89Y