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Title: Firefox 52 kills plugins – except Flash – and runs up a red flag for HTTP
Post by: ukgimp on March 08, 2017, 02:18:09 PM
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/03/08/firefox_52/

QuoteMost notable is the eviction of plug-ins. The browser will now only run Flash. Anything else reliant on the Netscape Plugin API (NPAPI) is now verboten. Which means Silverlight, Java and Acrobat are gone, daddy, gone.

The second big change is the addition of significant warnings when Firefox visits web sites that don't run HTTPS.
Title: Re: Firefox 52 kills plugins – except Flash – and runs up a red flag for HTTP
Post by: Chunkford on March 08, 2017, 02:38:05 PM
QuoteThe second big change is the addition of significant warnings when Firefox visits web sites that don't run HTTPS.

I'm now offering a fantastic service that will get rid of these obscene warnings.
For just £10 per page, those errors will be banished for good.
:D
Title: Re: Firefox 52 kills plugins – except Flash – and runs up a red flag for HTTP
Post by: Drastic on March 08, 2017, 02:39:49 PM
>The second big change is the addition of significant warnings when Firefox visits web sites that don't run HTTPS

This seems very minimal and not noticeable, or am I missing something?
Title: Re: Firefox 52 kills plugins – except Flash – and runs up a red flag for HTTP
Post by: BoL on March 08, 2017, 02:49:49 PM
I wonder what the average surfer thinks about the 'insecure' notifications of chrome/ff. Do they think that goblins might start re-arranging the words on the page?

I suppose it's just easier if everyone starts using TLS.
Title: Re: Firefox 52 kills plugins – except Flash – and runs up a red flag for HTTP
Post by: ukgimp on March 08, 2017, 03:56:45 PM
>>I wonder what the average surfer thinks about the 'insecure' notifications of chrome/ff. Do they think that goblins might start re-arranging the words on the page?

FF is very tech based these days user wise I would say.

But yes, the average user (most users) will be wary if they are warned.
Title: Re: Firefox 52 kills plugins – except Flash – and runs up a red flag for HTTP
Post by: Drastic on March 08, 2017, 04:32:01 PM
>'insecure' notifications

What are you seeing in FF? Nothing popped up or warned me of anything this am.
Title: Re: Firefox 52 kills plugins – except Flash – and runs up a red flag for HTTP
Post by: littleman on March 08, 2017, 05:23:10 PM
Really the only reason why I use FF these days is because I like having access to some plugins. 
Title: Re: Firefox 52 kills plugins – except Flash – and runs up a red flag for HTTP
Post by: ergophobe on March 08, 2017, 09:57:18 PM
Quote from: littleman on March 08, 2017, 05:23:10 PM
Really the only reason why I use FF these days is because I like having access to some plugins.  

Plugins or extensions? This should not affect extensions.
Title: Re: Firefox 52 kills plugins – except Flash – and runs up a red flag for HTTP
Post by: littleman on March 08, 2017, 10:21:32 PM
You're right, I had a brain lapse there.
Title: Re: Firefox 52 kills plugins – except Flash – and runs up a red flag for HTTP
Post by: BoL on March 08, 2017, 11:28:11 PM
>What are you seeing in FF? Nothing popped up or warned me of anything this am.

I'm on FF52 with Linux. which may have differences with the Win version There isn't anything for th3core.com but clicking on the I for info icon to the left of the address bar it says  'Connection is not Secure'. Not noticeable at all really.
Title: Re: Firefox 52 kills plugins – except Flash – and runs up a red flag for HTTP
Post by: Drastic on March 09, 2017, 01:08:35 AM
ok, that's what I'm seeing too, thanks. I don't think normal users will notice yet.
Title: Re: Firefox 52 kills plugins – except Flash – and runs up a red flag for HTTP
Post by: BoL on March 09, 2017, 08:08:32 PM
If you sign out of here and sign back in, you'll see quite a stark warning about the login form not being secure.
Title: Re: Firefox 52 kills plugins – except Flash – and runs up a red flag for HTTP
Post by: Drastic on March 09, 2017, 08:31:23 PM
Yeah I did see a form submit warning that is new, good point.
Title: Re: Firefox 52 kills plugins – except Flash – and runs up a red flag for HTTP
Post by: gm66 on March 29, 2017, 11:43:47 AM
May drop firefof, it handles some web tech very slowly.

Try doing a net sped test at http://speedtest.net with FF then with IE.
Title: Re: Firefox 52 kills plugins – except Flash – and runs up a red flag for HTTP
Post by: Mackin USA on March 29, 2017, 01:03:55 PM
Speed test requires Flash = security vulnerability
Title: Re: Firefox 52 kills plugins – except Flash – and runs up a red flag for HTTP
Post by: gm66 on March 30, 2017, 08:26:52 AM
Quote from: Mackin USA on March 29, 2017, 01:03:55 PM
Speed test requires Flash = security vulnerability

even if updated to latest flash version ?
Title: Re: Firefox 52 kills plugins – except Flash – and runs up a red flag for HTTP
Post by: Rupert on March 31, 2017, 01:54:06 PM
FF is buggy with lastpass, the team there have recommended I use another browser for the time being.  Also I use Tourstart.org for managing trip on my bike GPS. Its a pain with FF,  I use Edge to use that now.

So to me they seem to have several issues at the moment.
Title: Re: Firefox 52 kills plugins – except Flash – and runs up a red flag for HTTP
Post by: littleman on March 31, 2017, 11:33:48 PM
Pale Moon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pale_Moon_%28web_browser%29) looks interesting.
Title: Re: Firefox 52 kills plugins – except Flash – and runs up a red flag for HTTP
Post by: Rupert on April 01, 2017, 08:51:22 AM
OK never hit my rada before.  The wiki does not sell it well. 

Their website is sooo 2009.  Not sure if thats good or bad :)
Title: Re: Firefox 52 kills plugins – except Flash – and runs up a red flag for HTTP
Post by: JasonD on April 03, 2017, 08:48:56 AM
http://beta.speedtest.net/