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Title: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: littleman on March 16, 2017, 06:12:41 PM
Committing to 4 gym workouts a week.

First week I did 4/4, sort of.  I missed my Sunday workout so I went Monday instead.  So, this week I should be hitting the gym 5 times to be on track.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: Rupert on March 16, 2017, 06:36:58 PM
Ah, beat me to it, thank you.  I was about to start a thread, and fortunately scanned the list first :) 

Last week.
2 runs
2 tennis
1 swim.

Great to get a swim in at last!

5/4....  I can feel the light coming back, how I hate the dark.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: Drastic on March 17, 2017, 07:10:54 PM
I really need to get back in the gym so I'm going for 3/week gym visits only, starting next week.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: littleman on March 20, 2017, 06:03:15 PM
I got in the five workouts this last week; so that's 4/4 plus the makeup workout I did on Monday.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: Travoli on March 20, 2017, 06:34:55 PM
3/3 weight training
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: Rupert on March 21, 2017, 05:33:10 AM
Last week.
2 runs
2 tennis

4/4 pleased. Weight still climbing despite skipping 2 meals at the w/e.

OK added... Today is  a happy day.  Daughters 16th birthday, and I was out before 6 on my run, with the sun rising over my shoulder.  I try to make sure all days have a plus in them, but I got back and felt I wanted to share this is a very special day for us.

Also on my run I had a bitter/sweet moment thinking about a wake I am going to this friday. It is for an old School friend -Jack-  of my Dads. Jack was 95. I have a long list of memories to share with the family (They are like cousins, he had 2 families, first wife died of Polio).

He was a Doctor, and when I was a teenager about Lucys age, he told me to get out of breath everyday, and eat an egg. Seems like that advice is still pretty good!

I hope you don't mind me sharing those.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: littleman on March 21, 2017, 04:59:32 PM
> he told me to get out of breath everyday, and eat an egg.

Well, it got him to 95!  At the end of each workout I've been running a 1/4 mile as fast as I can to get the blood pumping hard.  I like the way it makes me feel.

>I hope you don't mind me sharing those.

I really like reading stories like this.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: buckworks on March 21, 2017, 05:12:34 PM
-96
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: littleman on March 21, 2017, 05:24:02 PM
>-96

:D

We get a progress pic at 100, right?!
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: littleman on March 27, 2017, 02:56:03 AM
Did my 4/4 gym workouts.  I've been running a bit at the end of each.  I have a somewhat embarrassing goal of running an 8 minute mile -- not very fast.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: ergophobe on March 27, 2017, 04:34:50 AM
Actually, I consider 8-minute pretty fast. There's some life insurance company that promises big discounts if you can run under 8 because all-cause mortality is way, way lower than the average sedentary American.

I had a goal last year of running a 1:15 quarter and a 6-minute mile. The one day I had at a measured track, I did the quarter (in 1:11), but I couldn't do the mile. Most days, though, I pat myself on the back and say "Good job!" when I run at an 8-minute pace.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: nffc on March 27, 2017, 05:31:02 AM
>Actually, I consider 8-minute pretty fast

Concur, especially bearing in mind running is not the focus.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: Rupert on March 27, 2017, 09:01:16 AM
Quotegoal of running an 8 minute mile
Ha!  Thats mine too :) 
Last week was 3/4... 3 Runs. Bad shoulder so no tennis or swimming. hopefully better very soon, its not too bad.

I managed my fastest ever 2 miles last week.  8.03 mins. So pleased with that.  Getting close.

LM thanks for posting your target.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: Travoli on March 27, 2017, 03:10:52 PM
3/3 weight training last week.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: littleman on March 27, 2017, 04:55:24 PM
Ergophobe, that's pretty fast!  I'm curious, what did you do in your teens & twenties?

Rupert, you are really close! 

Travoli, nice job hitting your weekly goal.

Side note:  My kid just hit 185lbs. on her deadlift.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: Rupert on March 27, 2017, 06:39:59 PM
QuoteMy kid just hit 185lbs. on her deadlift.
good girl!  Send my congrats!
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: ergophobe on March 27, 2017, 07:56:10 PM
Quote from: littleman on March 27, 2017, 04:55:24 PM
Ergophobe, that's pretty fast!  I'm curious, what did you do in your teens & twenties?

I rarely ran for time. I always ran for some other purpose. But we had a 5K course across the street from my house in high school and on a good day I would break 18 minutes. That course ended with almost the last mile uphill (though total elevation gain wasn't that great). So I guess I ran just under 6, probably a bit faster on the flats.

At about 30 (probably 28-29 actually) in grad school, I often ran the same 4.5-mile course (actually someone had measured it at 4.52). I always tried to run that in 31:30 (roughly 7 minute pace), but more commonly at a 7:30 pace. It had a few hills, but the killers was four street crossings with traffic lights. I struggled to break 31:30.

One day I was out running and feeling good, hit the first two traffic lights right and felt I was on pace for a PR and this guy comes in from a side street about 150 feet ahead of me and looks fast, but not crazy fast. I decide if I can hang with him until the turnaround point, I'll finally break 30:00 which was this elusive goal that I had missed by less than ten seconds numerous times. So I struggle to hang with him. He hits my turnaround and shoots through the park gate for the 6-mile version and I think "Thank God!" I know if I just turn around and go my usual pace, I'll break 30:00

Then I get to the gate and he comes shooting out - he had just gone for a drink. He's super friendly and starts chatting.

I'm completely dying and answering with one-word answers that are halfway between words and gasps.

"Hey I saw you behind me. You're pretty fast. Do you race?" (chipper as can be).
"nnnnoooo" which comes out as whoosh of air with a little bit of word.

"Are you a student?"
"yyyyyeaahhhhhhh"

"Oh cool, what to you study?"
"hhhiiisssttoooooorrrrryyyy"

"Grad or undergrad?"
"Ggggggrraaaaaaaaddddddd"

"Oh yeah, what's your dissertation topic?"

At which point I just thought "I am totally fffffuuuuuuccccckkkkkkeddddd". Totally dying, I give him the capsule summary of my dissertation. He is clearly just tooling along at his cruising pace. Probably a sub-3:00 marathoner.

We reach the point where our routes split and he says so long and I should join this race that's coming up soon. At that point I pushed as hard as I could to keep my pace, caught both lights again and touched the gym door in 28:40, which is a 6:37 mile.

I have never in the 25 years since come anywhere close to running that fast again.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: littleman on March 27, 2017, 08:26:02 PM
Great story.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: Rupert on March 28, 2017, 06:04:23 AM
You can do it again, just start the clock later :)
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: ergophobe on March 28, 2017, 04:45:29 PM
Quote from: littleman on March 27, 2017, 04:55:24 PM
Side note:  My kid just hit 185lbs. on her deadlift.

That.is.awesome. Wasn't she at 125 when you first posted and 150 just a couple of months ago?
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: littleman on March 28, 2017, 05:23:19 PM
Yeah, her legs are freakishly strong and keep getting stronger.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: littleman on March 29, 2017, 05:35:53 PM
Just to log my progress I did about 8m 40s yesterday.  For me (maybe everyone) running is weird -- it isn't so much about maximum effort but how much tolerance I to being uncomfortable.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: ergophobe on March 29, 2017, 05:49:11 PM
Quote from: littleman on March 29, 2017, 05:35:53 PM
tolerance I to being uncomfortable.

There is actually a whole field of research around this led by Tim Noakes. The idea of a governor. And it's common in the literature of running to say that running is fundamentally a sport of pain, which differentiates it from golf, but even boxing where the pain comes in spurts. One of the things they find about the tribe in Ethiopia that turns out so many good runners is they have an extremely high pain tolerance.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: Rupert on March 30, 2017, 05:59:36 AM
QuoteI did about 8m 40s yesterday.
Good effort LM.   min was back up to 9.22  Just a jog.   I left my ability to manage pain behind :)
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: littleman on April 03, 2017, 06:44:57 PM
I did my usual 4/4 weight training sessions.  On leg days I am only running a fast (for me) 1/4 mile at the end of the workout.  On non-leg days I've been running a mile.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: Rupert on April 03, 2017, 07:35:21 PM
Well done.  2 runs and a fun cycle off road with Lucy.  not a hard push, but fun.

so 3/4
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: ergophobe on April 03, 2017, 10:03:25 PM
>>my usual 4/4 weight training sessions

Hat's off! That makes me want to go lift some weights (I did 1/2 of my weight workouts and that was just lifting some rocks in the woods behind work during my lunch). Please keep reporting in with weeks like that!

I did have the first decent week of activity since my bout with low-grade pneumonia - 4/4 - a short run, lifting rocks, alpine touring, and 2.5 hours of the hardest skate skiing of the year (mashed potatoes snow).

Alpine touring: https://goo.gl/photos/5uJPYxdRN6nu3vxj9
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: littleman on April 03, 2017, 11:11:43 PM
>so 3/4

Pretty good!

>fun cycle off road with Lucy

Is that your bike or your SO? :)

Ergophobe, that is a lot of activity for someone for someone recovering from pneumonia.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: Travoli on April 04, 2017, 02:51:34 AM
3/3 weight training.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: Rupert on April 04, 2017, 04:57:42 AM
>>>Lucy...   sorry... daughter. :)
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: Drastic on April 04, 2017, 01:05:17 PM
2/3 gym last week.

+ 1 vball championship evening match - we won in 2
+ 3.5 hours open play in the sand Sunday
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: ergophobe on April 04, 2017, 03:32:46 PM
Quote from: littleman on April 03, 2017, 11:11:43 PM
Ergophobe, that is a lot of activity for someone for someone recovering from pneumonia.

I gave myself two weeks of feeling good and long rests after activity before pushing it. And it was just walking pneumonia. Totally winded and needing to rest after half a flight of stairs, but never totally bedridden.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: littleman on April 04, 2017, 05:57:05 PM
Travoli, you seem very consistent -- good job!

Rupert, nice to see someone else taking their kids out to exercise.  How old is she?

>3.5 hours open play

That sounds like it would be a lot of exercise.  Are you getting big caves from all that jumping in the sand?

Ergo, my dad has gotten walking pneumonia a few times.  Was this your first time?
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: Rupert on April 05, 2017, 09:20:11 AM
Lucy is just 16....  when I told her your girl was lifting 185lbs, she was soooo impressed! 
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: ergophobe on April 05, 2017, 04:22:45 PM
Quote from: littleman on April 04, 2017, 05:57:05 PM
Ergo, my dad has gotten walking pneumonia a few times.  Was this your first time?

First time. I've heard you're more susceptible if you get it once. I think mine was a mild case
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: littleman on April 05, 2017, 05:05:29 PM
16!  Lucy & Kelsey are the same age.  It is nice to read about another dad exercising with his daughter.  I see a lot of father and son combinations at the gym, but it is very rare seeing a girl with her dad.  BTW, I was able to get my oldest to go with us once, she's 18.  She hasn't come back with us, but is starting to do some fitness stuff on her own.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: Rupert on April 10, 2017, 01:10:31 PM
Quotestarting to do some fitness stuff on her own.
sounds like my girl and running! She goes without me.  I think we are both very lucky to have children interested in keeping fit.

4/4
3 runs 1 short cycle.  happy with that.

I have to say Drastic, playing in the sand sounds more fun.

... And I have decided that Ergophobe is an oxymoron.

Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: littleman on April 10, 2017, 04:28:32 PM
"Ergophobe" is definitely irony.  Though, perhaps it does apply to him living a conventional lifestyle and towing the line of traditional employment expectations.

4/4 weight training sessions
2 one mile runs
2 1/4 mile quick runs
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: Travoli on April 10, 2017, 04:52:22 PM
Great job Rupert and littleman. You guys are staying very active.

3/3* weight training last week

*I wasn't feeling it last week. Had a minor cold and failed many sets. Completed the workouts anyway to maintain consistency. Missing one workout makes it easier to skip another, etc...
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: ergophobe on April 11, 2017, 01:27:13 AM
Quote from: littleman on April 10, 2017, 04:28:32 PM
"Ergophobe" is definitely irony.

It's aspirational rather than ironic. And a bit of a long story.

Don't know about my count. Pretty sure I got 4 in last week. Today I ran/walked the Yosemite Falls Trail and, despite better conditions than last time, only shaved a couple of minutes of (1:06). My goal of 54 minutes before the snow flies again is seeming like a big stretch.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: Rupert on April 11, 2017, 05:52:30 AM
QuoteIt's aspirational rather than ironic
It might be to you. :)

To me you are a person like my Mum...  least like the Ergophobes I know. I say it as a tease, because you are still going when you are ill! That is aspirational to me.

(does that translate? I have a feeling its British)
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: rcjordan on April 11, 2017, 11:30:04 AM
175
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: ergophobe on April 11, 2017, 04:01:05 PM
Quote from: Rupert on April 11, 2017, 05:52:30 AM
least like the Ergophobes I know

Good God people! You were warned. I told you this was a long story.

It goes back to my childhood. When I was six years old, they asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up. My father was a fighter pilot and a ski coach. My grandfather was retired. It didn't take me too much thought to answer "retired."

It wasn't until everyone laughed and repeated it with sniggers, denigrating my first true calling, that I realized that it wasn't a proper aspiration. Some months later, all the kids from my neighborhood were on a local TV show and it was only as it was airing live and they were asking every kid one by one what they wanted to be when they grew up that my family started watching attentively. Embarrassed by being laughed at for my true vocation, I answered "fighter pilot" because it was the only other job that came readily to mind. I never for a day in my life aspired to be a fighter pilot.

So fast forward through a varied career in which I tried to avoid "work" as I thought of it - something you wouldn't do without getting paid. Oh sure, I put in very long hours reading, studying and writing in grad school and beyond, but for most of that time I was surprised that someone was actually paying me to do that. Not much, but again, the goal was to avoid "work" to have time to do things I wanted to do.

But alas, like everything one does so much, I tired of being a historian and it started to become work. One day, I really just didn't want shut myself up in my office to sit down in front of my computer and books and get to *work*. I told Theresa that I think I was agoraphobic - I feared the marketplace and didn't want to be part of it.

Theresa replied: "No, you like the marketplace. In fact, I think the reason you're sick of your work is because it's too isolated and you actually crave the marketplace, just not the work that goes on there. You're not agoraphobic, you're ergophobic." Within the hour, I owned ergophobia.com (never did anything with it of course) and on the old usenet channel rec.climbing I became ergophobe. This was not a "handle" by the way, this was just what people called me. In those days, everyone had nicknames different than their handles, which made it hell to follow a conversation if you weren't an initiate.

Then when I joined WMW, I chose ergophobe as my handle.

So I am not afraid of EFFORT. I love a hard effort, running or climbing or coding or writing. I am afraid of being forced to do things I don't feel like doing right now, which is my definition of "work"

So it's aspirational in the sense that I aspire to never back myself into a corner where I have to spend long periods of time doing something that doesn't inherently interest me, money aside. But I have found that often in life, that is hard to avoid.

Being false to my true calling, I have on many occasions found myself doing something that meets the general definition of work. It is a personal failing and I continue to work on a solution, but I'm not there quite yet.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: Rupert on April 15, 2017, 05:34:08 AM
Lovely story, thank you.  Sorry not to get back sooner... has a 3 day course so completely away from everything.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: Drastic on April 15, 2017, 03:37:56 PM
>I have on many occasions found myself doing something that meets the general definition of work. It is a personal failing and I continue to work on a solution, but I'm not there quite yet.

lmao....great backstory for your nick.

>I am afraid of being forced to do things I don't feel like doing right now, which is my definition of "work"

Funny, I just put exactly the same language on this, just this week. I like all aspects of the work we do, but on my timeframe. When I *have* to do something b/c of deadline or meeting an expectation, I hate it and its work. When I can pick and choose what I feel like doing, I enjoy the whole day and cruise through like a hobbyist. It's the main aspect I miss from affiliate work in general, though I'm sure my production is better overall making things happen whether I want to or not.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: ergophobe on April 16, 2017, 06:13:08 PM
Yes, freedom is the key.  Or as Celine said in Voyage au bout de la nuit...

"Les indigènes eux, ne fonctionnent guère en somme qu'à coups de trique, ils gardent cette dignité, tandis que les Blancs, perfectionnés par l'instruction publique, ils marchent tout seuls" (Voyage au bout de la nuit, p. 157, edition by "Ebooks gratuits" http://www.ebooksgratuits.com/pdf/celine_voyage_au_bout_de_la_nuit.pdf )

Roughly translated: "The natives, by and large, did nothing unless beaten with clubs, they held onto that much dignity, whereas the whites, perfected by public education, worked all on their own."

And, back to our regularly-scheduled program.... I don't know how much of what I did last week, but I did a week's worth of exercise yesterday: about 20 miles (it would be 22 miles by the trail, but we lost the trail and took one long cut and a couple of short cuts, the trail being under several feet of snow) with 5500 feet of elevation gain (was supposed to be 6000, but we didn't make the summit) and a 42-pound pack.

Photos: https://goo.gl/photos/nzJ6v6oSwTXAf5t69
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: Rupert on April 16, 2017, 09:02:21 PM
Holy mo...  Wonderful... thx for sharing.

A couple of 4 mile runs this week.  Happy to get those done really.


2/4
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: Travoli on April 17, 2017, 02:31:07 AM
3/3 weight training.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: littleman on April 17, 2017, 04:24:31 PM
>Photos
Wow! 

I did a repeat of last week. 
4/4 gym sessions
quick 1/4 mile x 2
1 mile x 2

This week and next will be more of a challenge with the CoreCon meet-up.  I am planning on doing everything M-Th this week and then pounding it out again when I get back home.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: ergophobe on April 17, 2017, 06:30:11 PM
>>challenge with the CoreCon meet-up

I heard Mr Mackin was leading a group run every morning.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: littleman on April 22, 2017, 04:15:56 AM
After working out twice over the weekend I hit the gym for four days to free up the rest of the week to hang out at CoreCon.  I didn't do any mile runs, but I did do three 1/4 mile faster pace runs.  The plan is to hit the gym four days straight when I come back.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: Rupert on April 22, 2017, 10:10:16 AM
CoreCon has started... I am expecting daily updates on physical activity....  that a big river to swim in.  ;D  I am sure there is nothing nasty lurking.....
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: Rupert on April 24, 2017, 04:01:32 PM
Last week, 3 runs and 1 cycle with Lucy... daughter.

so 4/4  pulled it together over the weekend, otherwise I was on target for 1 run.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: littleman on April 27, 2017, 04:24:04 PM
Wilmington = +7lbs.

I going to the gym the next four days to fulfill my weekly commitment.  I'll keep you guys posted on how long it takes to come off.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: rcjordan on April 27, 2017, 04:35:50 PM
Wilmington = +12lbs.  If it is my normal travel gain, 6 will be water weight.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: rcjordan on April 30, 2017, 01:17:32 PM
>water

On Apr 11th I reported 175 here.  At that time, I was trying to add blueberries to my daily diet and was up to 178 by the time we headed to Corecon.  The day after returning home (and already losing some water weight) I weighed 190.  After that, I lost 4 the first day and 2 the 2nd. This morning, I'm 181.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: littleman on April 30, 2017, 11:26:28 PM
Nice job RC!

>water

I am now +3lbs. from pre-Wilmington, the first 4lbs. cam off very fast.  The next three are going to take longer.  Fortunately I've been able to eat  with discipline since I've been home -- though I have to say that it isn't as easy as it was before the trip.  I was able to do my 4/4 for the week by hitting the gym every day since I've been back.  I didn't do any running this week, but I should be starting that back up next week.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: rcjordan on May 03, 2017, 12:40:56 PM
178, which was what I weighed when I left for Wilmington.  Goal is 170, but 173 is where I tend to plateau.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: Rupert on May 03, 2017, 01:57:15 PM
Ok 60 hours of driving has left me little time for exercise in the last couple of weeks.

So last week I managed 2 runs, a good walk,, and a night of dancing to a local band playing covers.
mentally 4/4
physically I think i might call it 3/4
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: Rumbas on May 03, 2017, 03:17:23 PM
I'm staying out of this one for now.. Wilmington was tough and I haven't done shit since neither stepped on the scale. May is the month to get back on the horse though.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: ergophobe on May 03, 2017, 04:18:36 PM
Not really counting these days, but I think I'm on five consecutive days of doing something...

- climbing on friday
- hike on Saturday
- mt bike ride on Sunday followed by an afternoon of cutting, splitting and stacking wood
- wait... Monday was a rest day
- yesterday was a "burn" day - about 6 hours of hauling brush and throwing it on a fire, followed by a short steep run

All in all, a good last few days. If I could keep that up I'd either be very fit or somewhat broken.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: littleman on May 03, 2017, 04:30:10 PM
>I'm staying out of this one for now ...  May is the month to get back on the horse though.

How about joining us for May?
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: Drastic on May 03, 2017, 05:16:52 PM
Quote from: Rumbas on May 03, 2017, 03:17:23 PM
I'm staying out of this one for now.. Wilmington was tough and I haven't done sh## since neither stepped on the scale. May is the month to get back on the horse though.

I'm right there with you man. I don't even want to get on the scale.

I must get back to it...challenge?
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: ergophobe on May 03, 2017, 05:31:11 PM
>> I don't even want to get on the scale

Ha ha! Yeah, I've been doing pretty well on the exercise, but very well on the ice cream - lots of both. And I too hesitate to get on the bodyfat scale...
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: Rumbas on May 04, 2017, 11:10:00 AM
>joining
>challenge

I'm in.
Dough Boy weighing in at 221 this morning. I've always wanted to go below 200, but... meh, lazy.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: Rumbas on May 04, 2017, 11:12:13 AM
Just got my Home trainer add-on for my Me-mover. Should be able to get some sweat on, just need to get off my @ss:

https://me-mover.com/me-mover-fit-benefits/
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: rcjordan on May 04, 2017, 11:27:58 AM
176, but traveling with a grandkid all weekend, so it's going to be bad.

>meh, lazy

What part of "Meat. Just eat meat!" don't you understand?   It's easy/lazy. Manly, too. Lose 1/2 pound a day.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: Drastic on May 04, 2017, 01:26:44 PM
>Dough Boy weighing in at 221 this morning. I've always wanted to go below 200, but... meh, lazy.

236 here this am, looking to get back under 200...how many workouts shall we do next week?


Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: Rumbas on May 04, 2017, 02:21:16 PM
>how many workouts shall we do next week?

How 'bout making it 3 - shooting for 4, but life might interfere..
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: Drastic on May 04, 2017, 02:27:08 PM
Aight, let's do this.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: Rumbas on May 04, 2017, 02:28:36 PM
You got it Bubba.

>meat
Aight, I'll be stuffing my face with steaks and greens.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: rcjordan on May 04, 2017, 02:33:32 PM
>stuffing

Easy on the greens. Maybe switch that to olives and/or dill pickles.  Two weeks. That's all.

>steaks

I've had 4 big rib-eyes this week. Some corned beef. Sausage. Chicken once.  Meat!  ...And I'm back down to pre-Corecon weight.

I go into the butcher and buy whole rib-eye loins. Costs $200-ish.  Grill is out back. Lose weight!!
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: littleman on May 05, 2017, 06:59:40 PM
I crossed back below Wilmington weight today.

>rib-eyes

I'm a bit envious.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: rcjordan on May 06, 2017, 02:11:52 AM
I'm spending approx $9/lb when I buy the whole loin and have them cut it into steaks. So I get a 1lb ribeye for what people pay for a 5 Guys burger & fries
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: littleman on May 06, 2017, 03:18:23 AM
The bulk of meat I eat is chicken ($0.77 - $1.57/lb).  I love steak, but probably eat it on average once a month.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: littleman on May 08, 2017, 07:02:34 AM
4/4 gym sessions
2x 1 mile runs
2x 1/4 mile runs (on legs days)
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: Rupert on May 08, 2017, 04:43:12 PM
Good work LM
3 runs
1 tennis
4/4
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: nffc on May 08, 2017, 06:25:22 PM
I left hanoi at 75.6 kg almost a month ago, haven't weighed myself since. I expect same weight Wednesday when I land back home, but lack of gym has moved everything body wise down a bit  ;D
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: littleman on May 09, 2017, 12:24:30 AM
Traveling for a month with zero weight gain is a major victory imo.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: nffc on May 11, 2017, 01:43:10 AM
Well I lost 0.4 kilo, also realised how flattering the lighting is in my bathroom in Hanoi!

I'm going beast mode rest of the year.

LM I was wrong about the body weight bench, forgot the bar.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: rcjordan on May 15, 2017, 11:19:13 AM
172

>Dough Boy weighing in at 221

How you doing, Rumbas?  Did you have balls enough to go meat-only?
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: Rumbas on May 15, 2017, 01:33:14 PM
Did pretty well, 2 good workouts and some long walks, but diet it still.. meh, need.moar.meat.

Haven't been on the scale, yet.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: ergophobe on May 15, 2017, 06:35:28 PM
Still not really counting, per se. I did at least
- 1 run
- 1 climbing outing
- 1 run/hike

The run/hike - I ran the Chilnualna Falls Trail (4.1 miles with 2,400 feet of gain) round trip, then met up with Theresa and a friend who had done a shorter, flatter run, and hiked it for a second lap. My first run is only the fourth one I have in Strava, but it was my second fastest, just a few seconds off my 2014 time and a couple minutes faster than 2016. I'll call that progress.
https://goo.gl/photos/CSg42ZiutSYSELhf9
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: littleman on May 16, 2017, 03:46:51 AM
Last week was crazy busy, as RC said, May is hell month.  I was able to get in my regular 4 gym workouts, but only managed to run once.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: Rupert on May 16, 2017, 06:39:25 AM
QuoteLast week was crazy busy
why is that?
2 runs
1 tennis
so 3/4 . A lot of time sat in a driving seat... not inspired at the mo.

Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: rcjordan on May 16, 2017, 11:24:33 AM
171.5

Get your ass in gear, Rumbas!

Yesterday's diet:

10oz V8 juice (that was a cheat)

3 eggs & 3 strips of bacon

3 oz cheddar cheese

2 baked boneless-skinless chicken thighs

12 oz corned beef

4 green olives (baked)

1 vodka & diet cranberry mixed drink
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: ergophobe on May 16, 2017, 04:56:09 PM
Quote from: Rupert on May 16, 2017, 06:39:25 AM
QuoteLast week was crazy busy
why is that?
http://th3core.com/talk/water-coolerextra/for-us-parents-may-is-hell-month/msg48969/#msg48969
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: littleman on May 26, 2017, 01:11:47 AM
4/4 gym sessions, 3 short runs.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: ergophobe on May 26, 2017, 05:01:19 AM
I mostly took this week off so far. Last week was pretty hard - finished with four days in a row, including a tough all-day hike on Saturday and the hardest climb I've done in years on Sunday.

My calves and other body parts needed a break.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: rcjordan on May 29, 2017, 12:12:02 PM
172.5
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: Rupert on May 29, 2017, 03:51:46 PM
2 weeks to report in on: 

Week before last:
2 runs,
1 tennis
3/4

Last week,
2 runs
1 cycle
1 swim
4/4

Daughter has started driving the family exercise harder.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: littleman on May 29, 2017, 07:05:51 PM
Nice job hanging on to the weight loss during hell month RC.

Rupert, that's a couple of pretty good weeks.

I did a repeat of the previous week 4/4 gym sessions, 3 short runs.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: rcjordan on May 30, 2017, 12:05:59 AM
>hell month

Had to bear down after the train-ride weekend and another couple of family events. July will bring another batch of family gathering eat-a-thons, so time is short.  That plateau I have at 173 can work to my benefit. I can't seem to break through it, but I do return to it fairly quickly if I go full keto.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: Rupert on June 04, 2017, 06:29:47 PM
QuoteRupert, that's a couple of pretty good weeks.

Thanks LM... been very busy, so lucky to get anything in. Oh, and all runs are short for me.

so Sun night, 2 runs, 1 tennis and 1 cycle. 4/4 very pleased.

2 of the 4 today... Lucy (daughter) pushing us all on :)

RC you seem to have weight management well sorted, particularly considering the fun you have !

Ergo, once again, envious of your lifestyle... I seem to be going the other way at the moment!

NFFC
Quotebeast mode
I think that will need before and after photos!!!
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: ergophobe on June 04, 2017, 07:20:08 PM
Quote from: Rupert on June 04, 2017, 06:29:47 PM
Ergo, once again, envious of your lifestyle... I seem to be going the other way at the moment!

Beware the Facebook effect. This thread is more "Tom's Greatest Hits" not "Tom's Daily Grind." I also did a fair bit of sitting on my butt in front of a computer and probably watched at least 5 episodes of The Flash ;-)

That said... I got out on a couple more hard climbs two days ago. Yesterday I was thrashed, but it felt good.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: littleman on June 05, 2017, 04:53:56 PM
4/4 gym sessions, 2 short runs.  Hell month actually extends into early June for us (until the last kid is out of school); I am hoping to increase my cardio after that.

Ergo, you jokingly mentioned that there may come a time when my daughter gets stronger than me, it is getting very close on leg-press.  We are doing 10  45 lbs. plates together and I noticed that she seems to do it easier than I -- she really does seem to have freakishly strong quads.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: ergophobe on June 05, 2017, 10:52:10 PM
1. Actually, I wasn't joking.

2. That's awesome.

3. Are we talking the 45-degree sled? I think the most I've ever done was 13 plates for 3 sets of 12 and I guarantee I couldn't do that now. I think she's already stronger than I am.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: littleman on June 05, 2017, 11:03:35 PM
Yeah, the 45 degree sled.  She knocks out 10 plates really quickly.  We're doing 3 sets of 10.  I've been actually encouraging her to hold at this weight for a while because I am worried about muscle imbalance where her quads are overdeveloped compared to the rest of her.  Her deadlift is still at 185lbs. but I think I am going to start encouraging her to work up to 200lbs. soon.  BTW, she could definitely outrun me on anything other than a short sprint.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: ergophobe on June 06, 2017, 12:54:20 AM
>> deadlift is still at 185lbs

Mine is headed that direction... At my best, I've only been able to do 2X body weight. Now I consider 1.5X borderline dangerous. Raw power has never been my thing. I've always been better at things that require 100,000 reps at low output (i.e. things like putting on foot in front of the other for hours at time).
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: rcjordan on June 06, 2017, 11:09:31 AM
170. goal.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: ergophobe on June 06, 2017, 03:06:54 PM
Quote from: ergophobe on June 06, 2017, 12:54:20 AM
>> deadlift is still at 185lbs

Mine is headed that direction...

Yep... just did some deadlifts for the first time in a while and I'm down to 205 (1.51X body weight, but that's only because I've lost enough muscle that I'm down almost 10 pounds in bodyweight). Did a couple sets of 6x205 and then put another couple small plates on and started to lift and thought "Uh... no."
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: littleman on June 07, 2017, 04:34:06 PM
To put it bluntly, ego seems to be the destroyer of men as they get older.  I keep telling myself that I need to be sensible in the weight room, do plenty of warm-ups, keep my rep range on the higher end.  I find myself wanting to push it more.  It is weird, but I know my muscles are stronger than my joints and ligaments at this point.  10-14 reps seems to be a safe zone where a lot of those types of injuries are avoided.

As for your deadlift, I think 205 is very respectable for a person of any age at 135lbs.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: littleman on June 08, 2017, 10:18:16 PM
Quote from: rcjordan on June 06, 2017, 11:09:31 AM
170. goal.

I forgot to say congrats here, well done RC!
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: ergophobe on June 09, 2017, 02:05:14 AM
Quote from: rcjordan on June 06, 2017, 11:09:31 AM
170. goal.

You mean Gggggggooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllll!

At least that's how they say it on TV.

Good job.

Quote from: littlemanego seems to be the destroyer
Quote from: littlemanI think 205 is very respectable

And in those two brief phrases, you've summed up the entire problem
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: rcjordan on June 09, 2017, 10:28:39 AM
>goal

Thanks, but the real trick will be to re-calibrate that hardwired plateau at 173 down to 170. To do that, I'm going to have to hold 168-170 for weeks or months.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: littleman on June 09, 2017, 05:54:13 PM
>And in those two brief phrases, you've summed up the entire problem

Yeah.  Does that come across as hypocritical?  What I was getting at with the above statement is that there needs to be a balance between maintaining strength and pushing your body too far.  Where that is is really different for each person.  You had the sense to stop at 205lbs. instead of pushing further.

It's sarcopenia vs. injury as you get older, so there are risks in not doing any resistance training too.

>real trick

You could never really go back to regular eating habits.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: rcjordan on June 09, 2017, 06:52:52 PM
>regular eating habits

Especially as I age. It takes only minuscule portions to sustain my weight now if I eat a normal diet. That's one reason I stay on the edge of low carb even when I am at a good weight --BIG portions of meat and I feel full.  That said, I've noticed that meals are becoming less & less a 'main event' of my day.  I'm also naturally gravitating to smaller portions.   
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: ergophobe on June 10, 2017, 03:00:30 PM
Quote from: littleman on June 09, 2017, 05:54:13 PM
Does that come across as hypocritical?

Not really. I don't want to get hurt, but there are also things that I would really enjoy doing that require, yes, not being hurt, but also being fit. I see it as more a tug and pull between two good things, than hypocrisy per se (telling me that I'm stupid for doing X and then using it as your secret weapon to prep for our upcoming competition).
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: littleman on June 11, 2017, 04:08:02 AM
I was really talking about my own foolishness in the gym.  Two years ago I was benching heavy and developed a shoulder ache, I am still dealing with some pain and stiffness.  A few months back I pulled something in my abdomen going heavy with deadlifts.  Both times my muscles were capable, but some other bit of me said "you shouldn't have done that".  The rub is that I know what is sensible, but in the moment I push it.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: ergophobe on June 11, 2017, 03:47:22 PM
As you said, the flip side is going too easy and losing strength as you age. It's not hypocritical so much as having two things in tension and trying to find the right midpoint. When we undershoot, we don't know how much we're hurting ourselves until a decade later and we've lost so much muscle (my mistake this last decade). When we overshoot, we know it in the moment or the next day and think we should have gone easier. We won't be on-target every day.
Title: Re: Core Commit to Health & Fitness 2017, 2nd Round: March-May
Post by: Rupert on June 11, 2017, 04:23:25 PM
and lets face it we lose 2% per year over 50 on average I understand. does not seem like much until you start putting it together.