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Title: Will circular runways ever take off? - Think again
Post by: Mackin USA on March 18, 2017, 03:32:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS5X3F0HN4s

The future?
Title: Re: Will circular runways ever take off? - Think again
Post by: nffc on March 18, 2017, 05:32:35 PM
Conveyor belts is the answer, certainly for take off.
Title: Re: Will circular runways ever take off? - Think again
Post by: ukgimp on March 18, 2017, 06:10:32 PM
Pilot mate for a commercial airline says it would be way to risky in certain places with crosswinds and other reasons.

QuoteNot sure this would work to be honest. Heavier aircraft need higher landing speed, this would result in higher turn radius for a given angle of bank. In order to align with the curved runway on landing, you would inevitably have varying angles of bank according to landing speed - resulting in touchdown on one landing gear first. This isn't ideal and can over stress the landing gear. Not to mention the varying wind as aircraft heading changes. I'll stick with straight runways thanks.
Title: Re: Will circular runways ever take off? - Think again
Post by: littleman on March 18, 2017, 10:52:19 PM
If it became a thing then planes could be engineered to handle the asymmetrical stress -- I don't see that being a deal breaker.  Some of the single engine fighters of WWII were made to offset the rotational stresses of the single prop.  Varying size planes needing different angles could be taken care of by making different tracks for different size planes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7Z9fpYx-aI <- a talking version of the presentation.
Title: Re: Will circular runways ever take off? - Think again
Post by: rcjordan on March 18, 2017, 10:57:29 PM
The landing pattern around straight runways is confusing enough. VFR pilots would be SOL. Everything would have to be IFR ...or bots.

Also:
"If a headline ends in a question mark, the answer is 'No.'"
Title: Re: Will circular runways ever take off? - Think again
Post by: ukgimp on March 19, 2017, 10:29:45 AM
>> "If a headline ends in a question mark, the answer is 'No.'"

Yes haha. Much like if you have to ask if something is ok, it's probably isn't and "with all due respect..." = "no respect"
Title: Re: Will circular runways ever take off? - Think again
Post by: Rooftop on March 20, 2017, 09:21:03 AM
Quote from: rcjordan on March 18, 2017, 10:57:29 PM
or bots.

Yeah, that.
Title: Re: Will circular runways ever take off? - Think again
Post by: rcjordan on March 20, 2017, 11:36:11 AM
>bots

Setting up a crosswind landing is a sphincter-puckering adventure every time you have to do it.  And that's with a straight runway with the apparent wind coming from a steady-ish direction.  Far a 757, approach speeds are 155mph.  On a circular runway, the apparent wind -even if from a steady direction- would be changing at blistering rate.  I'd sure as hell want a bot calculating that and not some sleepy (or drunk) pilot.

http://pop.h-cdn.co/assets/15/31/768x432/gallery-1438001728-crosswind-3.gif

Title: Re: Will circular runways ever take off? - Think again
Post by: rcjordan on March 22, 2017, 02:28:04 PM
Speaking of planes and sphincter-puckering...

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/private-jet-flipped-over-wake-turbulence-airbus-a380-reports-n736861