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Why We Are Here => Marketing => Topic started by: rcjordan on March 30, 2017, 10:55:33 AM

Title: Chaff & Flares Profile
Post by: rcjordan on March 30, 2017, 10:55:33 AM
how to quit living at home with my parents
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Free chapter 7
Preserve my rights under the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act
Major Credit Card Debt
how to get out of credit card debt without paying
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Frequently Unemployed
Got Foreclosed On
Always Borrowing From friends and family
Max out my credit cards and pay only the minimum
Paying bills late
Constantly Paying Late Fines and Overdraft Fees
Aren't Saving for the Future
Don't Have Emergency Savings
Don't Know Where My Money Is Going
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Title: Re: Chaff & Flares Profile
Post by: Travoli on March 30, 2017, 05:03:35 PM
If browsing histories are used as risk signals (healthcare, insurance, loans), you are F*ed.
Title: Re: Chaff & Flares Profile
Post by: rcjordan on March 30, 2017, 05:26:46 PM
>risk signals

I believe they are or will be and I've kept that in mind.  I've no need for credit, though, I could swing a private loan from internal sources. So no risk there.  Health insurance is locked in. Primary is Medicare, secondary is just supplemental. Very minimal risk, imo.  

Researching health issues could be tricky, for sure, and will be for anyone.

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>insurance

Missed that one. I self-insure except for home, health, liability, and mandated auto.  So no concerns there, either.
Title: Re: Chaff & Flares Profile
Post by: rcjordan on March 31, 2017, 01:38:27 PM
https://noiszy.com/
Title: Re: Chaff & Flares Profile
Post by: DrCool on March 31, 2017, 07:32:12 PM
https://slifty.github.io/internet_noise/index.html
Title: Re: Chaff & Flares Profile
Post by: Mackin USA on March 31, 2017, 07:41:02 PM
RC: Yours asks for my email addy = DECLINE

Coolness: Yours seems FUN but have you used it?
Title: Re: Chaff & Flares Profile
Post by: rcjordan on March 31, 2017, 08:38:01 PM
>have you used it?

Yup. even though it may be premature, I run 100-300 links per day using the spider extension. I'm currently working my way through the list at the top. I'll be updating that for a while.  As opposed to those Doc & I posted, I'm able to control the build of the db by the serps I select to spider.  With some forethought and trial-and-error, I should be able to sculpt my profile somewhat.
Title: Re: Chaff & Flares Profile
Post by: rcjordan on April 01, 2017, 05:38:18 PM
TrackMeNot

https://cs.nyu.edu/trackmenot/

The FAQ says the user can control the search engines used and the queries (by generating an rss feed or somesuch.) I have loaded it but haven't dug into it yet.

Faq: http://cs.nyu.edu/trackmenot/faq.html#options

This looks worth a test run.
Title: Re: Chaff & Flares Profile
Post by: buckworks on April 01, 2017, 05:56:33 PM
>> run 100-300 links per day using the spider extension

How does that affect those websites?
Title: Re: Chaff & Flares Profile
Post by: rcjordan on April 01, 2017, 06:04:15 PM
It clicks through, then closes the tab.  I'm not set to spider deeper than 1 level.  I don't like that you can't specify the intervals or time-on-site.  I'm currently switching/testing TrackMeNot as it does allow me to slow things down. The suggested timing for a more human-like trail in TMN is 10/hour (and 'Burst Mode'), that's what I'm now running.
Title: Re: Chaff & Flares Profile
Post by: rcjordan on April 01, 2017, 08:06:06 PM
The guts of TMN

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RSS Support for seed-list generation/substitution

TMN now parses RSS feeds to generate some portion of its initial query terms. Following generation of the initial seed-list of query terms, TMN will occasionally query a randomly selected RSS feed to get new terms. A default set of RSS feeds is provided with TMN, and users may edit and add new feeds in the TMN options panel.
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Selective Click-Through

TMN now 'clicks-through' on some percentage of its searches by selecting and navigating to links received in the search result to further simulate user behavior. The click-through mechanism is designed to minimize the probability of clicking on revenue-generating ads.
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Realtime Search-Tracking

TMN now recognizes when a 'real' search is being performed by a user and can act on this information in a variety of ways (see below).
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Dynamic URLs/Header Matching

TMN now keeps track of where (for each search engine) you've last searched and uses that URL to send its queries (for example, if you start using the Google toolbar rather than Google's webpage, TMN will update itself to do the same). Similarly, TMN now stores the header information your browser is sending out (browser type, version, OS, etc.) and mimics these in its own queries.
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Dynamic Queries

As of version 0.4.x, TMN's static word list has been replaced with a dynamic query mechanism which 'evolves' each client (uniquely) over time, parsing the results of its searches for 'logical' future query terms with which to replace those already used.
Title: Re: Chaff & Flares Profile
Post by: rcjordan on April 02, 2017, 05:54:17 PM
TMN is flakey, but usable.  I currently have it set on 10 searches per hour on google & duckduckgo (but the logs show it's doing about half that pace, perhaps when the browser is inactive? dunno.)  It will get its kw seeding from a single, user-specified rss feed and mix it with it's own 'popular' list.  I've not run it long enough to see if it morphs the seed list to give more weight to the user rss feed.  I used eurekalert.org for my feed.

Here are this morning's logs:
Quotegoogle   recovery   teacher   13:37:21
google   [error]         13:37:18
ddg   timed      miami   12:01:48
ddg   timed      university miami zika   11:53:46
ddg   timed      impacts   11:46:38
google   timed      face transplant   11:39:20
google   timed      Apr 0ecfunctionhor1f   11:30:36
ddg   timed      apr 0ecfunctionhor1f   11:23:02
ddg   timed      trump   11:21:54
ddg   timed      trump nov apr   10:29:57
google   recovery   trump nov apr   10:17:56
ddg   [error]         10:17:56
ddg   recovery   gang starr   09:17:58
google   [error]         09:17:57
google   timed      new   08:37:50
ddg   timed      nov apr now trump   08:31:44
ddg   recovery   apr the backs street 0ecfunctionhor1f   08:23:45
google   [error]         08:10:41
google   timed      the mar backs street 0ecfunctionhor1f   07:45:17
google   timed      blackberry pearl   07:38:45
google   timed      halle berry   07:31:48
google   timed      rolling stone magazine   07:23:25
google   timed      amtrak   07:16:49
google   timed      box jellyfish   07:08:17
google   recovery   amtrak   07:02:02
ddg   [error]   
Title: Re: Chaff & Flares Profile
Post by: Rumbas on April 03, 2017, 09:19:56 AM
Hehe, that should be illegal. Messing up our profiling and retargetting flows. Tsk tsk, the paid team here will have a fit.
Title: Re: Chaff & Flares Profile
Post by: rcjordan on April 03, 2017, 11:25:42 AM
>the paid team here will have a fit

Tell them you are going to Wilmington to see it in action.  You'll particularly like to see the original spider-based one. I have both installed.

Most of these extensions were initially developed some years ago to counter retargetting. There are some signs of renewed interest because of the US ISP-sniffing mess, I'm watching a few.
Title: Re: Chaff & Flares Profile
Post by: Brad on April 03, 2017, 07:17:13 PM
RC is on the cutting edge.  Story breaking into tech media.

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2017/04/after-vote-to-kill-privacy-rules-users-try-to-pollute-their-web-history/
Title: Re: Chaff & Flares Profile
Post by: rcjordan on April 03, 2017, 07:44:23 PM
The ironic part is they'd have to snailmail the ads to me before I'd see them. (First class mail, I throw away everything else unopened.) My browser just doesn't do ads anymore.
Title: Re: Chaff & Flares Profile
Post by: grnidone on April 05, 2017, 01:40:13 AM
>My browser just doesn't do ads anymore.

I think this will become the norm.
Title: Re: Chaff & Flares Profile
Post by: ukgimp on April 05, 2017, 08:31:35 AM
>> I think this will become the norm.

See lots of "clean" networks and tools, but you can of course pay to be on the whitelist haha
Title: Re: Chaff & Flares Profile
Post by: Brad on April 05, 2017, 11:31:45 AM
I've always resisted using ad blockers because I always thought the little publisher should get paid and I'm fairly blind to most banners anyway.  However, 1. The little guy seems largely gone, 2. Even legit pages are so infested with in your face ads that ad blocking is looking like the way forward.
Title: Re: Chaff & Flares Profile
Post by: rcjordan on April 05, 2017, 12:38:02 PM
>clean

In my case, gutted would be a better description.  Header, leaderboards, footers, alerts, left col, right col, nav, extraneous divs, etc. --gone.

Trick:  Only apply the gutting to regular browser windows, switch to incognito if you need to see some page element.