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Title: Here are all of the things millennials have been accused of killing
Post by: rcjordan on May 22, 2017, 11:53:47 PM
1. The 9 to 5 work week

2. Focus groups

3. Dinner dates

4. Cruises

5. Napkins

6. Running

7. Golf

8. Soap bars

9. Sex

10. Relationships

11. Marriage

12. Face-to-face interaction

13. Vacations

14. Homeownership

15. Wine corks

16. Diamonds

17. Department stores

Fleshed out here:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/here-are-all-of-the-things-millennials-have-been-accused-of-killing-2017-05-22
Title: Re: Here are all of the things millennials have been accused of killing
Post by: ergophobe on May 23, 2017, 12:37:23 AM
And to most of those 17, I say "About time!"

The more I read/hear people complain about millennials, the more I like them.

Bonus... I just got my sorry middle-aged ass dragged up a hard (for me) climb yesterday by a millennial and the bonus is that I learned a lot of new phrases

"10 on the Sickter Scale"
"Welcome to Gnarnia"

stick in my mind.
Title: Re: Here are all of the things millennials have been accused of killing
Post by: grnidone on May 26, 2017, 06:04:35 PM
Millennials are the new whipping boy.  Gen Xers were considered lazy until they (we) made the Internet user-friendly to sell things on and made the Internet boom of the late 1990s.  

Then we were considered OK.

Millennials aren't any worse than any of the rest of us.  But I do see that they've gotten the short end of the stick in a lot of things and actually have a reason to b###h about it.

But hey, nobody likes a whiner.
Title: Re: Here are all of the things millennials have been accused of killing
Post by: ergophobe on May 27, 2017, 12:34:06 AM
We should make a list of all the things the Greatest Generation killed... Sure, fascism. That was a good one. But then there's a lot in the debits column too.

This whole narrative of generations makes me bothered.
Title: Re: Here are all of the things millennials have been accused of killing
Post by: Leona on June 03, 2017, 07:16:56 AM
Most of which is based on technology developed by the generation before them. I agree, the constant hit to Millenials is disgusting. They are just young people trying to make their way in the world as we did, with some benefits but their own package of hardships to endure. It is ageism, pure and simple, we wouldn't bash our old like this, why do we feel it is okay to bash our young adults? I feel sorry for the poor kids, when we were growing up it was just grumpy old grandad on the street or newspapers we could ignore, for them, with the Internet, it is everywhere  >:(.
Title: Re: Here are all of the things millennials have been accused of killing
Post by: rcjordan on December 17, 2017, 09:49:47 PM
http://www.startribune.com/changing-consumers-ignite-food-revolution/457733433/
Title: Re: Here are all of the things millennials have been accused of killing
Post by: ergophobe on January 23, 2018, 08:26:57 PM
Now apparently they are killing Costco
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/will-millennials-kill-costco/2018/01/19/d0de5dec-fb9e-11e7-a46b-a3614530bd87_story.html?utm_term=.a8f1710a5c02

Is it necessary to point out that choosing not to patronize a business which, by they way, their great grandparents didn't patronize either, is an interesting definition of "killing."

In other words instead of saying "Costco successfully exploited a basic glitch in the wetware of Boomers, but as Millennials patch that glitch, the Costco business model is faltering" they just say "The outsize and unrestrained Boomer love of wasting hours of every week wandering around cavernous retail spaces is the status quo, the nature of things, the right and just state of the world. Millennials have burned down that just and right world."

The more I read about how bad Millennials are, the less I like Boomers (and technically, I am one).
Title: Re: Here are all of the things millennials have been accused of killing
Post by: littleman on January 24, 2018, 12:24:39 AM
>Boomers

Honestly, I don't think there has been a more privileged (and consequently narcissistic) generation in US history.  There are exceptions of course, and I don't think it applies to the rest of the world.
Title: Re: Here are all of the things millennials have been accused of killing
Post by: Brad on January 24, 2018, 12:28:23 PM
>Boomers

I'm a Boomer too and I agree with Ergo and LM.  Even with all their faults I dearly miss the Greatest Generation. We Boomers are in charge now and I'm scared.
Title: Re: Here are all of the things millennials have been accused of killing
Post by: Mackin USA on January 24, 2018, 01:19:47 PM
yep
Title: Re: Here are all of the things millennials have been accused of killing
Post by: littleman on January 24, 2018, 06:55:56 PM
>why do we feel it is okay to bash our young adults?

Its a bit of blaming the victim I think.  They're the ones who are inheriting the mess.

>Greatest Generation

I still have my Grandmother, she's the last in my family.  TGG grew up hungry and poor, then had to fight and later rebuild after the destruction imposed on them from previous generations.  They were largely not in control of world events, but had to carry the burdens.
Title: Re: Here are all of the things millennials have been accused of killing
Post by: rcjordan on February 01, 2018, 03:47:24 AM
I read somewhere that they were killing motorcycles. Personally, I'm with the millennials on this one.

Harley-Davidson to close Kansas City plant as sales slump

https://www.autoblog.com/2018/01/31/harley-davidson-kansas-city-sales-slump/

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-biz-harley-davidson-shuts-down-plant-20180130-story.html
Title: Re: Here are all of the things millennials have been accused of killing
Post by: Brad on February 01, 2018, 11:52:36 AM
Really it's the aging of the Boomers that is killing motorcycle sales. That and it keeps getting harder every  year to get a motorcycle endorsement.

I think urban Millennials would take up scooters if American cities accommodated them the way European cities do, with designated parking and such.   But American cities and car drivers tend to be hostile.  Sprawl kills off scooters in the suburbs.
Title: Re: Here are all of the things millennials have been accused of killing
Post by: rcjordan on February 07, 2018, 02:02:30 PM
The Death of Clothing

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2018-death-of-clothing/
Title: Re: Here are all of the things millennials have been accused of killing
Post by: buckworks on February 07, 2018, 02:52:31 PM
Related:

Make the Friends Happy, Don't Have a Wedding Party

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/06/fashion/weddings/no-wedding-party-no-bridesmaids-no-groomsmen.html
Title: Re: Here are all of the things millennials have been accused of killing
Post by: ergophobe on February 07, 2018, 02:58:48 PM
Quote from: rcjordan on February 07, 2018, 02:02:30 PM
The Death of Clothing

I'm reading a book right now called "The Sum of Small Things: A Theory of the Aspirational Class."

In theory (so to speak), it's a followup to Thorstein Veblen's "Theory of the Leisure Class" from the 1890s. Veblen is the one who coined the term "conspicuous consumption" (as well as conspicuous leisure and others). The author of Sum argues that the elite have shifted to inconspicuous consumption.

In other words, flashy clothes and cars have ceased to be status symbols. The new status symbols that define the elite are much less noticeable and usually much more expensive. They include things like college educations and lots of insurance (health insurance, of course, but as you go up the ladder, other forms too), breastfeeding, nannies, and so forth.

The breastfeeding chapter is fascinating on how and why breastfeeding became the province of the elite and how, as it turns out, there is no evidence that breastfeeding is actually better for a child. But among elite women on the coasts, that is gospel, and rates are hugely different in California vs Alabama and France.
Title: Re: Here are all of the things millennials have been accused of killing
Post by: ergophobe on February 07, 2018, 03:32:25 PM
Quote from: buckworks on February 07, 2018, 02:52:31 PM
Make the Friends Happy, Don't Have a Wedding Party

See, like I say, I was a Millennial before those snot-nosed kids were born. And generally speaking, I do feel more akin to the Millennial Mindset than the Boomers, who are supposedly my cohort. In my case, no wedding party. Informal attire suggested. We requested that people not give gifts - our invitation read "Your presence is our present"
Title: Re: Here are all of the things millennials have been accused of killing
Post by: Brad on February 13, 2018, 08:03:26 PM
Okay but some jobs are making a comeback due to Millennials.

Old-fashioned jobs making a comeback in modern America https://a.msn.com/01/en-us/BBIM7Q0
Title: Re: Here are all of the things millennials have been accused of killing
Post by: rcjordan on January 27, 2019, 05:13:16 PM
Antique show dealers see low prices, little youth interest | Miami Herald
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/business/article225154105.html#storylink=rss
Title: Re: Here are all of the things millennials have been accused of killing
Post by: ergophobe on January 28, 2019, 01:01:13 PM
That makes sense. Antiques are a strange thing and I already feel a big gap between me and my parents (in terms of wanting to hold onto family heirlooms).

I think part of it is that my parents live within an hour of where most of their ancestors have lived since 1790 and within 4 hours of where most have lived since the early 1600s (which, by the way, is  true of most French Canadians)

The next gen even more so is not interested in carting a lot of stuff around, let alone buying other families' old stuff
Title: Re: Here are all of the things millennials have been accused of killing
Post by: rcjordan on January 28, 2019, 04:11:22 PM
Increasing urbanization and downsizing of homes has played into this a lot, I think.
Title: Re: Here are all of the things millennials have been accused of killing
Post by: rcjordan on June 06, 2019, 06:31:11 PM
Apparently, they've killed wall-to-wall carpet, too.

QuoteAfter dominating for decades, wall-to-wall carpet's share of the floor-covering market has plummeted since the millennium—from about 60% of sales to roughly one third

'Big Carpet' Wants This to End America's Love for Hardwood | Time
https://time.com/5602251/carpet-industry-hardwood-floors/