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Title: Amazon is buying Whole Foods in a deal valued at $13.7 billion
Post by: Mackin USA on June 16, 2017, 01:29:25 PM
TALKING HEADS > Cramer goes NUTS
Amazon.com founder and CEO Jeff Bezos
Cramer: Amazon could dominate food retail for next two years with Whole Foods deal  
20 Mins Ago | 04:35

Amazon said Friday it plans to acquire Whole Foods Market for $42 a share, in a deal valued at $13.7 billion.

Whole Foods' John Mackey will remain CEO of the grocery store chain after the deal closes, and the store will continue to operate under the Whole Foods brand.

The deal is expected to close in the second half year.

"This partnership presents an opportunity to maximize value for Whole Foods Market's shareholders, while at the same time extending our mission and bringing the highest quality, experience, convenience and innovation to our customers," Mackey said in a statement.

Whole Foods has been under pressure from Jana Partners hedge fund and money management firm Neuberger Berman, which have called on Whole Foods to sell itself. The investors have criticized Whole Foods for its poor performance, and have suggested the chain could be merged with another grocer.

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/06/16/amazon-is-buying-whole-foods-in-a-deal-valued-at-13-point-7-billion.html
Title: Re: Amazon is buying Whole Foods in a deal valued at $13.7 billion
Post by: DrCool on June 16, 2017, 02:08:31 PM
Target down 9%
WalMart down 5%
Costco down 6%
Sprouts down 11%
Kroger down 13%

Title: Re: Amazon is buying Whole Foods in a deal valued at $13.7 billion
Post by: Mackin USA on June 16, 2017, 02:10:50 PM
No wonder Cramer went NUTS  :o
Title: Re: Amazon is buying Whole Foods in a deal valued at $13.7 billion
Post by: DrCool on June 16, 2017, 02:28:01 PM
And Amazon is up 4%. Which works out to about $14 billion.

So basically they got Whole Foods for free.
Title: Re: Amazon is buying Whole Foods in a deal valued at $13.7 billion
Post by: littleman on June 16, 2017, 06:06:51 PM
Seems like a mismatch to me.  I can't see these two brands occupying the same space in the consumer's mind and it being a benefit.  Whole Foods shoppers go to Whole Foods because they think they are special, and need special foods that are a grade above what regular people would buy.  Amazon is a store for the masses.  This reminds me a bit of when Chrysler bought Lamborghini.
Title: Re: Amazon is buying Whole Foods in a deal valued at $13.7 billion
Post by: littleman on June 16, 2017, 07:18:12 PM
This guy called it in early March: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvZ8mGZZins
Title: Re: Amazon is buying Whole Foods in a deal valued at $13.7 billion
Post by: rcjordan on June 16, 2017, 07:33:28 PM
>Seems like a mismatch to me.

Same.
Title: Re: Amazon is buying Whole Foods in a deal valued at $13.7 billion
Post by: ergophobe on June 16, 2017, 08:19:41 PM
Quote from: littleman on June 16, 2017, 06:06:51 PM
Seems like a mismatch to me.  I can't see these two brands occupying the same space in the consumer's mind and it being a benefit.  Whole Foods shoppers go to Whole Foods because they think they are special, and need special foods that are a grade above what regular people would buy.  Amazon is a store for the masses.  This reminds me a bit of when Chrysler bought Lamborghini.

My friend who used to call Whole Foods deli her "happy place" is an Amazon Prime customer (like most people I know).

Many of my purchases on Amazon are whole foods that are hard to buy or expensive at the local grocery store.

I haven't been in a Whole Foods in years, but a relatively low-income friend who lives near a Whole Foods said that when he compares prices, WF is pretty much the same as the grocery store for the same item and the reason the perception of high cost exists is because once inside the store, people buy all sorts of stupid herbal pills for their dogs* that they would never buy at FoodMax.

*Not a random example. 15-20 years ago, we lived around the corner from a Wild Oats and one day I went in there and the end-of-aisle display was herbal pills for your dog. Cost for a bottle that had a one-week supply: $47. But of course, your dog is family. Would you skimp on family?
Title: Re: Amazon is buying Whole Foods in a deal valued at $13.7 billion
Post by: ukgimp on June 16, 2017, 10:15:35 PM
https://twitter.com/chicagophotosho/status/875708981511163905
Title: Re: Amazon is buying Whole Foods in a deal valued at $13.7 billion
Post by: rcjordan on June 16, 2017, 10:27:31 PM
Bezos needed something to pair with his new jabbernet-enabled Dash Wand

https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Dash-Wand-With-Alexa/dp/B01MQMJFDK

<added>
QuoteNow that Amazon's all bullish about hardware, thanks to the Echo's stratospheric success, the company's bringing back the Dash Wand with Alexa built-in. It's a nice bit of synergy. All of the barcode scanning and Amazon Fresh purchasing is still there, and now Alexa can do her thing as well, ordering items with voice, pulling up recipes, finding out the nutritional content of an item. You know, Alexa being Alexa.

At the moment, the item is available for Prime Members only.

...It also comes with a free 90-day trial of AmazonFresh.

https://techcrunch.com/2017/06/15/amazons-dash-wand-barcode-scanner-returns-with-alexa-and-is-now-essentially-free/
Title: Re: Amazon is buying Whole Foods in a deal valued at $13.7 billion
Post by: aaron on June 16, 2017, 10:39:06 PM
Quote from: littleman on June 16, 2017, 06:06:51 PM
Seems like a mismatch to me.  I can't see these two brands occupying the same space in the consumer's mind and it being a benefit. 
They don't need to occupy the same space if they stay as separate brands.

Share a common back end & the ability to cross-sell some goods from a common inventory set, but maintain separate public-facing brands.

Much like Walmart acquiring Jet, Bobonos, ModCloth, MooseJaw, Shoebuy & Hayneedle.

Food is the most stagnant category in terms of e-commerce displacing physical stores. This is a way for Amazon to collect the associated share of wallet & consumer data without it taking 10 years to get to any sort of scale. And if they can pay to put lockers in 7/11 while Walmart gives customers discounts for picking up items in store then Amazon could do something similar with offering discounts to drive foot traffic to Whole Foods stores & help contain their shipping costs.
Title: Re: Amazon is buying Whole Foods in a deal valued at $13.7 billion
Post by: Drastic on June 16, 2017, 10:52:36 PM
I think this is just a cheap buy for them that's profitable and a built in delivery platform for food. I think it's going to be big and the switch to ordering online and getting delivery or drive by pickup for the masses will come quicker than we think.

Amy is doing it now at WalMart where they just started offering to shop online, she picks a time for pickup for a 1.5 hour window. She gets out of the car to open the trunk and that's it, have had this about 2 months.

I think this is going to be Amazon's response to that new service.
Title: Re: Amazon is buying Whole Foods in a deal valued at $13.7 billion
Post by: Mackin USA on June 17, 2017, 10:12:41 AM
What aaron & Drastic said

Makes perfect sense to me.
We rarely go to whole foods
We do buy @ Amazon Prime because we can  ;)
Our main markets are COSTCO & Trader Joe's because we are special  ;D
Title: Re: Amazon is buying Whole Foods in a deal valued at $13.7 billion
Post by: Brad on June 17, 2017, 12:25:27 PM
If it were the old Yahoo buying Whole Foods it would fail.

But with Bezos and Amazon buying it, I can see them pulling it off.  Bezos is always thinking 5 or 6 moves out and sees opportunities that the rest just cannot comprehend or if they comprehend can't pull off.

I'm still trying to wrap my mind around buying groceries through Amazon online.  Never been in a Whole Foods.  All I know is Aldi won me over when they started to accept credit cards - complete game changer for buying the basics.
Title: Re: Amazon is buying Whole Foods in a deal valued at $13.7 billion
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Title: Re: Amazon is buying Whole Foods in a deal valued at $13.7 billion
Post by: Mackin USA on June 17, 2017, 02:27:38 PM
For Whole Foods workers, fears of robots, drones and culture clash

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-whole-foods-m-a-workers-idUSKBN1972VI
Title: Re: Amazon is buying Whole Foods in a deal valued at $13.7 billion
Post by: Mackin USA on June 19, 2017, 01:47:25 PM
LUV The Headline

"Amazon eats the world"

"http://theweek.com/articles/706484/amazon-eats-world
Title: Re: Amazon is buying Whole Foods in a deal valued at $13.7 billion
Post by: ergophobe on June 19, 2017, 08:36:09 PM
It must be getting so hard to write for The Onion. More and more, real world headlines and Onion headlines are indistinguishable
Title: Re: Amazon is buying Whole Foods in a deal valued at $13.7 billion
Post by: littleman on June 20, 2017, 10:57:35 PM
The real reason Amazon buying Whole Foods terrifies the competition (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/6/20/15824718/amazon-whole-foods-profit-margin)
Title: Re: Amazon is buying Whole Foods in a deal valued at $13.7 billion
Post by: Mackin USA on June 26, 2017, 01:13:41 PM
Amazon Robots Poised to Revamp How Whole Foods Runs Warehouses
The retailer could bring its distribution technology to the grocery chain

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-06-26/amazon-robots-poised-to-revamp-how-whole-foods-runs-warehouses
Title: Re: Amazon is buying Whole Foods in a deal valued at $13.7 billion
Post by: littleman on June 26, 2017, 10:28:56 PM
That's interesting, so the face may look very much the same, but the back end could get very automated and Amazon will squeeze more profit.
Title: Re: Amazon is buying Whole Foods in a deal valued at $13.7 billion
Post by: Mackin USA on August 15, 2017, 09:37:38 AM
and speaking of COSTCO...
Title: Re: Amazon is buying Whole Foods in a deal valued at $13.7 billion
Post by: Travoli on August 15, 2017, 01:00:46 PM
I'm getting e-mails from Kroger about their new delivery service.
Title: Re: Amazon is buying Whole Foods in a deal valued at $13.7 billion
Post by: rcjordan on August 15, 2017, 01:10:58 PM
>Kroger

I read the other day that Kroger owns Harris-Teeter.   Didn't know that.

I mentioned in another thread that Publix is delivering in Charleston, SC.
Title: Re: Amazon is buying Whole Foods in a deal valued at $13.7 billion
Post by: DrCool on August 15, 2017, 01:37:15 PM
>>Publix is delivering in Charleston, SC

Shipt does Publix deliveries here. They will do Costco as well. I believe you pay about a 5% premium on the price of the groceries to get them delivered and there is a monthly fee.

It wouldn't shock me at all if more and more grocery stores start offering some sort of delivery service. If they were smart they would do something similar to Amazon's Subscribe and Save where you sign up and have an automatic monthly delivery that you receive with the option to add on other items as needed. So every month you will get your pasta, canned fruit, taco shells, boxes of cereal, etc. automatically delivered on the 1st of the month.

To take it a step further they could do some sort of grocery/pre-prepared meal hybrid. So similar to Blue Apron they bring groceries along with some meal kits.
Title: Re: Amazon is buying Whole Foods in a deal valued at $13.7 billion
Post by: rcjordan on August 15, 2017, 01:50:42 PM
>there is a monthly fee

I'm not sure about the 5% premium in Charleston but you could do an annual fee, too.  The pickers & drivers work sort of like Uber.
Title: Re: Amazon is buying Whole Foods in a deal valued at $13.7 billion
Post by: rcjordan on August 15, 2017, 04:08:17 PM
The software routing 260,000 grocery deliveries a week
http://ocadotechnology.com/blog/ocado-internet-of-vans/

Scaling up the traveling salesman algo.
Title: Re: Amazon is buying Whole Foods in a deal valued at $13.7 billion
Post by: rcjordan on September 17, 2017, 04:55:37 PM
RE: Whole Foods

At the end of August, Amazon quietly expanded the cities included in the alcohol delivery service through Prime Now

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/17/getting-alcohol-delivery-on-amazon--will-whole-foods-help.html