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Why We Are Here => Water Cooler => Topic started by: rcjordan on July 31, 2017, 01:38:59 PM

Title: ACM cladding and the Grenfell Tower fire
Post by: rcjordan on July 31, 2017, 01:38:59 PM
Waaay off our usual subject matter, but I've been interested in how the cladding was part|much of the problem at Grenfell.  We don't get much of the details here, just the sensationalism.  Here's a good page on the differences in ACM with respect to flame-spread.

https://www.alucobondusa.com/blog/the-critical-importance-of-aluminum-composite-fire-performance-on-high-rise-buildings/

related:
Councils concerned with 'significant cost' of replacing building cladding
http://www.publicsectorexecutive.com/Public-Sector-News/councils-concerned-with-significant-cost-of-replacing-building-cladding

Umm, well, that's how it goes.  About 10 yrs ago, one of our contractors cladding a hotel in the Outer Banks resort area was caught installing vinyl siding that did not meet the flame-spread code. He wasn't caught by the inspectors, but turned in by a competitor who'd lost the bid. He waited until the job was almost complete before he went to the inspectors.
Title: Re: ACM cladding and the Grenfell Tower fire
Post by: DrCool on July 31, 2017, 02:37:48 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/40686513/grenfell-tower-fire-nfl-stadium-cladding-identical

Not surprised it is Cleveland
Title: Re: ACM cladding and the Grenfell Tower fire
Post by: Mackin USA on July 31, 2017, 03:32:07 PM
>a hotel in the Outer Banks resort area

WE do have some EXPERIENCE with a Hotel & FIRE in that area  ;)
Title: Re: ACM cladding and the Grenfell Tower fire
Post by: rcjordan on July 31, 2017, 04:40:42 PM
>EXPERIENCE with a Hotel & FIRE in that area

It was the very same hotel.
Title: Re: ACM cladding and the Grenfell Tower fire
Post by: ukgimp on July 31, 2017, 10:16:36 PM
Recently I was driving around Manchester. There are many high rise blocks. What's obvious now is the residents. Have tried to rip the cladding off. You can see then get to 2nd or 3rd floor. Must be scary.

However, no fucker would have died if they had left the building when first notified. They were told to stay though
Title: Re: ACM cladding and the Grenfell Tower fire
Post by: rcjordan on December 30, 2017, 11:40:37 PM
> driving around Manchester. There are many high rise blocks.

One person was taken to hospital after a large fire broke out in a block of flats in Manchester city centre.

Quoteflames had spread to the other floors via wooden balconies

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-manchester-42524546

WTF??!! Wooden balconies.  You sumbitches need better building codes.
Title: Re: ACM cladding and the Grenfell Tower fire
Post by: rcjordan on May 19, 2018, 09:20:05 PM
Fire brigade advice to 100+ towers in London is to flee as tests show their cladding unsafe.


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/may/19/grenfell-tower-fire-tests-cladding-unsafe-fire-brigade-advice-to-flee
Title: Re: ACM cladding and the Grenfell Tower fire
Post by: rcjordan on July 18, 2019, 10:05:44 PM
Experts demand urgent removal of cladding on scores of tower blocks
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jul/18/grenfell-experts-demand-urgent-removal-of-combustible-cladding-on-scores-of-tower-blocks
Title: Re: ACM cladding and the Grenfell Tower fire
Post by: rcjordan on December 16, 2020, 08:11:55 PM
Cladding scandal: homeowners pay millions for waking watches – Which? News
https://www.which.co.uk/news/2020/12/cladding-scandal-latest-homeowners-forced-to-spend-millions-on-24-hour-fire-patrols/