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Title: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on August 23, 2017, 12:20:32 PM
Exxon's using the tobacco playbook

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2017/aug/23/harvard-scientists-took-exxons-challenge-found-it-using-the-tobacco-playbook
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on August 23, 2017, 12:23:13 PM
AccuWeather issues statement on claims it was collecting and sharing location data against users' will

https://www.fastcompany.com/40457621/accuweather-issues-statement-on-claims-it-was-collecting-and-sharing-location-data-against-users-will
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on November 29, 2017, 02:09:35 PM
Corporations Make Big Climate Promises Only To Retreat After A Few Years, Study Finds

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/corporate-sustainability-climate-change_us_5a1c7002e4b0e9bc3368d93e
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: Travoli on November 29, 2017, 05:04:00 PM
>Companies lie

I liked this one from Reddit
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on December 20, 2017, 01:37:26 PM
More 'fur free' retailers found selling rabbit and fox fur, Sky News finds

https://news.sky.com/story/more-retailers-selling-real-fur-labelled-as-fake-sky-news-investigation-finds-11177979
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on December 21, 2017, 05:04:58 PM
100 percent of donations go to the Michigan Humane Society

https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/defenders/michigan-attorney-general-sues-company-over-deceptive-clothing-bins-throughout-state
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on December 22, 2017, 03:36:46 PM
Washington state: Comcast was "even more deceptive" than we thought

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/12/washington-state-comcast-was-even-more-deceptive-than-we-thought/
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on December 28, 2017, 01:51:43 PM
QuoteShortly after publication, Google reviews of Hill Crest were scrubbed from search results for the facility. Currently, only one review — written this month — appears.

A spokesperson for Google declined to comment directly but said that reviews may be removed from listings if they violate Google review policies.

How a Giant Psychiatric Hospital Company Tried To Spin Us — And Silence Its Staff

https://www.buzzfeed.com/rosalindadams/how-a-giant-psychiatric-hospital-company-tried-to-spin-us
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on March 26, 2018, 06:04:22 PM
Verizon's Proposed Settlement in New York Covers Up One of the Largest, Nationwide, Accounting Scandals in American History.

https://medium.com/@kushnickbruce/verizons-proposed-settlement-in-new-york-covers-up-one-of-the-largest-nationwide-accounting-5b0c1e8e1aa6
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on July 18, 2018, 08:55:36 PM
Biggest Voting Machine Maker Admits -- Ooops -- That It Installed Remote Access Software After First Denying It

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20180717/23350940257/biggest-voting-machine-maker-admits-ooops-that-it-installed-remote-access-software-after-first-denying-it.shtml
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: littleman on July 18, 2018, 10:51:56 PM
All these things really need a real time paper trail that have a viewing window so that the voter could see his/her vote was tallied the right way.  Anything short of that is just wishful thinking.
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on December 06, 2018, 06:46:29 PM
Wells Fargo's reform plan fails to satisfy Federal Reserve

https://nypost.com/2018/12/06/fed-rejects-wells-fargos-reform-plan-after-string-of-scandals/
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on December 16, 2018, 02:16:28 AM
California commission finds PG&E falsified records for years - CNN

https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/15/us/pge-falsifying-records/index.html

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J&J knew for decades that asbestos lurked in its Baby Powder

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/johnsonandjohnson-cancer/
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: Mackin USA on December 16, 2018, 04:25:50 PM
https://biznology.com/2014/09/google-lying-liar-lies/
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on December 18, 2018, 03:13:49 PM
Bigger than the Dotcom Morgue.

Charter-Spectrum reaches $174.2 million settlement in New York AG's speed fraud lawsuit - The Verge

https://www.theverge.com/2018/12/18/18146210/charter-spectrum-174-million-settlement-new-york-state-attorney-general-internet-speeds
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on January 10, 2019, 04:24:52 PM
Android phones start lying about offering 5G | Cult of Mac
https://www.cultofmac.com/599722/5g-android-phones-lies-att/
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on March 28, 2019, 10:27:13 PM
Office Depot rigged PC malware scans to sell unneeded $300 tech support | Ars Technica
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2019/03/office-depot-tricked-people-into-buying-pc-support-with-fake-virus-scans/
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: ergophobe on March 28, 2019, 11:29:39 PM
Wow! Page out of the Indian scammer playbook.

At the risk of sounding naive, I am genuinely shocked, no irony, that Office Depot would do that
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on April 05, 2019, 11:20:33 PM
Restaurants lie.

"Even tiny amounts of gluten in foods are troublesome for people with celiac disease, and restaurants may be the hardest places to avoid the protein, finds a new study. More than half of gluten-free pizza and pasta dishes in restaurants tested positive for the presence of gluten; about one-third of supposedly gluten-free foods had detectable gluten. Gluten-free pasta samples were positive in 51 percent of tests; gluten-free pizza contained gluten for 53 percent."

Study measures gluten in gluten-free labeled restaurant food -- ScienceDaily
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/04/190405170447.htm
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on April 29, 2019, 08:19:22 PM
'Biodegradable' plastic bags survive three years in soil and sea | Environment | The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/apr/29/biodegradable-plastic-bags-survive-three-years-in-soil-and-sea
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on August 02, 2019, 08:39:32 PM
Verizon's New 'Unlimited' Plans Are Just Screwing With Us Now
https://gizmodo.com/verizons-new-unlimited-plans-are-just-screwing-with-us-1836909106
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: ergophobe on August 29, 2019, 06:51:13 PM
Biodegradable products are almost never good for the environment. The solve the litter problem, but they do not solve the trash problem and they tend to make the pollution problem worse.
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: ergophobe on December 02, 2020, 02:19:28 AM
Google Photos offers unlimited free storage for life. Or 15GB, whichever comes first.

https://thomashawk.com/2020/11/google-photos-bait-meet-switch.html

This is good news for Smug Mug (parent company of Flickr)
https://jeremy0.medium.com/google-photos-is-out-flickr-is-back-77232e84d78d
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: ergophobe on March 01, 2021, 10:08:45 PM
Facebook was caught lying to advertisers (again)
Unredacted court documents show that Facebook knowingly misled advertisers on how many eyeballs the platform reaches.
https://thehustle.co/02232021-facebook-advertising/

QuoteIn one nugget from the filing, Facebook told advertisers it could target 100m people aged 18-34 years old in the US even though there are only 76m people in that age group.

The article also alerted me to a not so new nickname: Scrooge McZuck.

Facebook employee warned it used 'deeply wrong' ad metrics to boost revenue
The 'potential reach' metric counted fake and duplicate accounts
https://www.theverge.com/2021/2/18/22289232/facebook-ad-revenue-proposed-reach-inflation-lawsuit-unredacted-filings
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: ergophobe on July 24, 2021, 09:56:19 PM
Some companies pledged to halt donations to lawmakers who objected to certifying Biden's election win. They have not kept their promise.
https://www.businessinsider.com/companies-didnt-keep-promise-not-fund-lawmakers-objected-election-certification-2021-7
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on January 22, 2022, 08:26:04 PM
Alberta: Shell's Massive Carbon Capture Plant Is Emitting More Than It's Capturing

https://www.vice.com/en/article/7kb43x/shell-quest-carbon-capture-plant-alberta
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on February 17, 2022, 11:57:55 PM
Fossil fuel companies own green rhetoric betrays an ugly truth — analysis
https://www.inverse.com/science/fossil-fuel-companies-green-rhetoric-truth
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: ergophobe on February 18, 2022, 12:37:18 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXuBnz6vtuI
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on May 24, 2022, 07:01:46 PM
Ford to pay states $19.2M over false advertising claims
https://nypost.com/2022/05/24/ford-to-pay-states-19-2m-over-false-advertising-claims/
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on June 20, 2022, 01:50:24 PM
Samsung Busted For Cheating TV Test Benchmarks | Techdirt
https://www.techdirt.com/2022/06/17/samsung-busted-for-cheating-tv-test-benchmarks/
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on November 15, 2022, 03:47:01 PM
Bird overstated shared electric scooter revenue for two years - The Verge

https://www.theverge.com/2022/11/14/23457688/bird-revenue-overstated-shared-electric-scooters-audit
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on November 23, 2022, 12:42:00 PM
Bob Dylan's Publisher Admits $600 Books Had Replica Autographs | Pitchfork

....came with an authenticity certificate from Simon & Schuster

https://pitchfork.com/news/bob-dylans-publisher-admits-600-books-had-replica-autographs/
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on September 15, 2023, 05:46:40 PM
Most Americans Don't Trust Companies to Use AI Responsibly: Study

https://www.businessinsider.com/ai-americans-business-trust-technology-workers-gallup-survey-2023-9
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on October 25, 2023, 11:22:04 AM
California: Cruise Self-Driving License Revoked After It Withheld Pedestrian Injury Footage, DMV Says

https://www.vice.com/en/article/4a3ba3/california-dmv-suspends-cruises-self-driving-car-license-after-pedestrian-injury
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: ergophobe on November 07, 2023, 03:02:54 AM
Uber, Lyft to hand back $328M of stolen wages to NY drivers
So much for appy cabbies being 'partners' - Big U kept fares low by making 'em pay fees that riders should have picked up
https://www.theregister.com/2023/11/03/uber_lyft_new_york_back_pay/

HBO CEO Confesses to Trolling Critics With Fake Tweets After Rolling Stone Exposé
https://www.rollingstone.com/tv-movies/tv-movie-news/hbo-ceo-casey-bloys-confesses-trolling-critics-fake-twitter-accounts-dumb-idea-1234868710/
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on November 20, 2023, 07:57:51 PM
>lie

& Cheat

Toyota financing arm fined $60 million by consumer watchdog for car loan scam

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/11/20/cfpb-fines-toyota-financing-arm-for-60-million-for-car-loan-scam.html


Et tu, Toyota?
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on December 14, 2023, 12:58:48 PM
Companies lie ....and sabotage repairs?

Developing story.


Trains were designed to break down after third-party repairs, hackers find | Ars Technica

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/12/manufacturer-deliberately-bricked-trains-repaired-by-competitors-hackers-find/
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: ergophobe on December 15, 2023, 12:11:15 AM
"the profit system follows the path of least resistance and following the path of least resistance is what makes the river crooked."
  — Utah Phillips
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on December 19, 2023, 11:23:21 PM
Behind the scene of food commercials

https://old.reddit.com/r/BeAmazed/comments/18m1h71/behind_the_scene_of_food_commercials/
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: ergophobe on December 20, 2023, 12:24:29 AM
What are you complaining about. I love me some Penzoil on my pancakes. Everyone knows all that sugar in maple syrup will kill you.
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: Adam C on December 21, 2023, 11:06:10 AM
Quote from: rcjordan on December 19, 2023, 11:23:21 PM
Behind the scene of food commercials

https://old.reddit.com/r/BeAmazed/comments/18m1h71/behind_the_scene_of_food_commercials/

True.  My mother worked as a food tech prepping food products for TV commercials in the 1970s.  Blowing cigarette smoke on plates of food to give a hot-from-the-oven impression was a popular trick apparently.
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on December 22, 2023, 12:30:05 AM
>My mother worked as a food tech prepping food products for TV commercials in the 1970

My commercial artist brother sub-contracted with an ad company (Chicago) in the 60s. He told stories of working for days on a team that poured out a bunch of boxes in order to pick and strategically place (with tweezers) sugar-coated corn flakes.

He evolved into air-brushing and food companies were big clients.
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on December 28, 2023, 04:47:20 PM
>Et tu, Toyota?

Systemic?

https://thehill.com/business/4379454-toyota-subsidiary-shuts-down-after-admitting-it-falsified-safety-tests/

Toyota subsidiary shuts down after admitting it falsified safety tests | The Hill
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on January 04, 2024, 01:32:29 PM
https://fortune.com/2024/01/03/starbucks-app-dark-side-unspent-payments-900-million-5-years/

Dark side of Starbucks app: Coffee giant accused of rigging payments to the tune of nearly $900 million over 5 years | Fortune

"Starbucks rigs its payment platform so consumers are encouraged to leave unspent money on their cards and apps"
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on January 23, 2024, 05:54:39 PM
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/technology/ftc-orders-intuit-to-stop-pushing-free-software-that-isnt-really-free/

FTC orders Intuit to stop pushing "free" software that isn't really free
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on January 25, 2024, 03:23:06 PM
https://heated.world/p/the-propane-industry-is-trying-to

The propane industry is trying to dupe you

Members of a propane industry lobbying group strategized to downplay the full climate impacts of propane and market it as renewable or "clean energy,"
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on March 04, 2024, 09:14:20 PM
https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/cooling/half-of-tested-pc-watercoolers-dont-use-the-premium-materials-advertised-like-copper-report

Half of tested PC watercoolers don't use the premium materials advertised, like copper: Report | Tom's Hardware
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on March 23, 2024, 03:44:57 PM
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/03/cable-isp-fined-10000-for-lying-to-fcc-about-where-it-offers-broadband/

Cable ISP fined $10,000 for lying to FCC about where it offers broadband | Ars Technica
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on April 29, 2024, 11:08:11 PM
lie repeatedly...

https://www.scrippsnews.com/business/company-news/williams-sonoma-fined-3-18-million-dollars-for-falsely-labeling-products-as-made-in-usa

Williams-Sonoma fined $3.18 million for falsely labeling products as 'Made in USA'

The Federal Trade Commission said the retailer violated a 2020 order it settled that made the same allegations.
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on April 30, 2024, 04:14:20 PM
https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/razer-forced-to-pay-more-than-dollar1m-in-refunds-for-its-rgb-surgical-n95-respirators-that-were-not-n95-respirators/

Razer billed the Zephyr as an N95 mask, and the FTC says that was a lie.

Razer forced to pay more than $1M in refunds for its RGB 'surgical N95 respirators' that were not N95 respirators | PC Gamer
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on June 03, 2024, 07:35:52 PM
https://apnews.com/article/toyota-certification-cheating-japan-automakers-scandal-26585a96df2a32f7d67a4011a0a98772

Toyota apologizes for cheating on vehicle testing and halts production of three models | AP News

3 companies apologized..

Toyota
Mazda
Honda

Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: ergophobe on August 18, 2024, 11:15:17 PM
"Carbon neutral" Bitcoin operation founded by coal plant operator wasn't actually carbon neutral
https://pluralistic.net/2024/08/09/terawulf/#hunterbrook

I know, I know. Uncovering that the founders of a Bitcoin company lied is shocking. Shocking.
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on October 08, 2024, 11:34:22 AM
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3wp46l3gv4o

Food rating lies exposed by BBC secret recording
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on November 15, 2024, 10:12:21 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/nov/15/gm-cruise-self-driving-taxi

GM's Cruise admits submitting false report to robotaxi safety investigation | General Motors | The Guardian
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on December 12, 2024, 02:40:25 AM
https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/blog/we-dont-trust-product-specs/

We Don't Trust Manufacturers' Product Specs. You Shouldn't Either. | Wirecutter
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on December 22, 2024, 02:19:58 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/20/colorado-oil-gas-false-environmental-impact-reports

Oil and gas firms operating in Colorado falsified environmental impact reports | Colorado | The Guardian
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: ergophobe on January 09, 2025, 08:53:03 PM
https://seths.blog/2024/12/fiblets/

"These fiblets are so common that they become part of the culture, a trope that lets the user know that this is a real organization"
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: ergophobe on April 26, 2025, 07:59:39 PM
Tesla accused of hacking odometers to avoid warranty repairs.

https://www.thestreet.com/automotive/tesla-accused-of-using-sneaky-tactic-to-dodge-car-repairs

TL;DR - California driver filed a warranty claim and noticed shortly thereafter his daily 20-mile commute was registering as 70+ miles until he hit 50,000 and was informed his car was no longer under warranty, at which point the daily commute went back to 20 miles. Others on the Tesla subreddit have reported the same thing
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on May 01, 2025, 06:02:41 PM
Judge Rules Apple Executive Lied Under Oath, Makes Criminal Contempt Referral

https://www.thebignewsletter.com/p/judge-rules-apple-executive-lied
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on August 27, 2025, 11:56:02 AM
Nothing Phone 3 caught faking camera samples - Android Authority

https://www.androidauthority.com/nothing-phone-3-fake-camera-3591569/
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: ergophobe on August 27, 2025, 10:06:02 PM
You Don't Actually Own That Movie You Just "Bought."
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/prime-video-lawsuit-movie-license-ownership-1236353127/

Amazon is actually being sued over this. We, of course, all know about this, but did not realize that with respect to music, artists get paid a lot more when their music is licensed than they do when it is sold, but Amazon and other digital "sellers" of music *license* the music to us but account it as a *sale* when they pay artists and Cory Doctorow explains.
https://pluralistic.net/2025/08/26/sole-and-despotic-dominion/
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on August 30, 2025, 11:24:51 PM
Tesla denied having fatal crash data until a hacker found it - Ars Technica

The data was key evidence in the death of a pedestrian in 2019.

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2025/08/how-a-hacker-helped-win-a-wrongful-death-lawsuit-against-tesla/
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: rcjordan on September 13, 2025, 11:45:57 PM
Plug-in Hybrids Now Emit 5 Times, on Average, What Official Tests Claim — EU Data

https://cleantechnica.com/2025/09/10/plug-in-hybrids-now-emit-5-times-on-average-what-official-tests-claim-eu-data/
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: ergophobe on September 14, 2025, 07:15:25 PM
>> Plug-in Hybrids

I think this is a bit misleading. My understanding is that this is not like the Volkswagen thing where they are gaming the tests.

The problem with Plug-in Hybrids is that it turns out that you have to plug them in. Who would have guessed?

So the official tests are based on the assumption that if the car has X miles of battery range, the first X miles of a trip will always be on battery. But it turns out that if you don't plug them in, you just have a hybrid with 150 pounds of extra battery.

When we were shopping for our car, we ran into someone who had the exact car and we asked about how much battery range he got and he literally did not know that it was a PHEV. He had had it for several months and never plugged it in.

I feel like this is more like the situation where early climate models tend to be off (they predict less warming than we have seen) not because the science was wrong but because they misjudged human behavior. They assumed that as data rolled in, people would take action, but that didn't happen.

Similarly, I feel like the car companies and agencies who set testing protocols got the tests right, but misjudged human nature (i.e. they would rather go to the gas station and pump gas rather than taking 14 seconds when they get home to plug in the car). Also, of course, some people don't even consider that their only parking is on-street and they have no means to charge the car. With a full EV, they would simply have to trade the car in, but with a PHEV they drive it like an HEV and call it a day.
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: Brad on September 14, 2025, 09:48:07 PM
ergo, that makes a lot of sense.
Title: Re: Companies lie
Post by: ergophobe on September 14, 2025, 11:33:26 PM
Quote from: Brad on September 14, 2025, 09:48:07 PMergo, that makes a lot of sense.

To the extent that it makes sense to buy a plug-in hybrid and then not plug it in :-)

With my car, the P was something like a $4000 upgrade over the plain HEV and you end up with an unnecessarily heavy vehicle with unnecessarily expensive tires.  DOH!!