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Why We Are Here => Water Cooler => Topic started by: rcjordan on September 01, 2017, 12:03:22 PM

Title: NHS continues to struggle to train and retain its home-grown doctors
Post by: rcjordan on September 01, 2017, 12:03:22 PM
QuoteContracts have been put out to tender that could see half of the extra 5,000 GPs promised by 2020 brought in from abroad.

Quotestart recruiting in the autumn with EU doctors being targeted first.

Racists!

http://www.bbc.com/news/health-41111553
Title: Re: NHS continues to struggle to train and retain its home-grown doctors
Post by: Mackin USA on September 01, 2017, 02:03:16 PM
Article DOES NOT mention how much the doctors will be PAID.

That is one VERY IMPORTANT issue!
Title: Re: NHS continues to struggle to train and retain its home-grown doctors
Post by: rcjordan on September 01, 2017, 02:14:07 PM
>paid
I can tell you that it will be less than a doctor makes here in the US and more than a doctor makes in Poland.  And even more than a doctor makes in Pakistan or India.

I posted this because back in EU meetup 2003-ish the Eurotrash & I discussed one of the then growing problems in their single-payer health system; doctors are capitalists and will move to the money. 
Title: Re: NHS continues to struggle to train and retain its home-grown doctors
Post by: Mackin USA on September 01, 2017, 02:22:42 PM
You may remember that I was a physician recruiter @ one time in my carrier and you are 100% correct!

doctors are capitalists and will move to the money.
Title: Re: NHS continues to struggle to train and retain its home-grown doctors
Post by: ukgimp on September 01, 2017, 03:54:49 PM
You lot over there pay wayyyyyy too much.

The pharma companies take the piss.

https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/1w0z7h/the_average_hip_replacement_in_the_usa_costs/
Title: Re: NHS continues to struggle to train and retain its home-grown doctors
Post by: rcjordan on September 01, 2017, 05:33:28 PM
There's ZERO question that the healthcare system here is predatory when it comes to pricing.  I'll add that a doc here seeing 150 patients per day (really, I got that figure from a pharm salesman) doesn't have much time to be a GOOD doctor.
Title: Re: NHS continues to struggle to train and retain its home-grown doctors
Post by: ergophobe on September 02, 2017, 05:26:57 PM
Quote from: rcjordan on September 01, 2017, 02:14:07 PM
doctors are capitalists and will move to the money. 

A friend of mine in college refused to write the "save the world" med school essay. He wrote that he loved science, didn't want a desk job and wanted to make a good living. Years later, despite himself, he ended up working on a reservation and struggling to find other docs. One day he said to me "I want to know where all those people are who said on their med school essays that they wanted to save the world, because they aren't showing up at my reservation!"
Title: Re: NHS continues to struggle to train and retain its home-grown doctors
Post by: rcjordan on September 02, 2017, 07:28:25 PM
>"save the world" med school essay

Don't forget "and world peace." --Miss Congeniality
Title: Re: NHS continues to struggle to train and retain its home-grown doctors
Post by: rcjordan on October 18, 2017, 12:28:59 AM
QuoteWhy is the NHS under so much pressure?

An ageing population. There are one million more people over the age of 65 than five years ago. This has caused a surge in demand for medical care

Cuts to budgets for social care. While the NHS budget has been protected, social services for home helps and other care have fallen by 11 per cent in five years. This has caused record levels of "bedblocking"; people with no medical need to be in hospital are stuck there because they can't be supported at home

Staff shortages. While hospital doctor and nurse numbers have risen over the last decade, they have not kept pace with the rise in demand. Meanwhile 2016 saw record numbers of GP practices close, displacing patients on to A&E departments as they seek medical advice

NHS provokes fury with indefinite surgery ban for smokers and obese

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/17/nhs-provokes-fury-indefinite-surgery-ban-smokers-obese/
Title: Re: NHS continues to struggle to train and retain its home-grown doctors
Post by: Mackin USA on October 18, 2017, 10:56:11 AM
Rationing is the controlled distribution of scarce resources, goods, or services, or an artificial restriction of demand.
Title: Re: NHS continues to struggle to train and retain its home-grown doctors
Post by: rcjordan on December 07, 2017, 02:23:31 PM
Brits, your health system looks to be maxxing out.

QuoteThe NHS admitted last month that a £1bn drive to free up 2,000 to 3,000 hospital beds in England by this autumn had failed.

NHS bosses sound alarm over hospitals already running at 99% capacity
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/dec/07/nhs-bosses-sound-alarm-over-hospital-bed-shortages-patient-safety-concern
Title: Re: NHS continues to struggle to train and retain its home-grown doctors
Post by: Mackin USA on December 07, 2017, 02:33:41 PM
SO SAD