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Title: Ketones as a booster drink
Post by: rcjordan on November 07, 2017, 03:30:49 PM
I dunno about this one.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2017/11/keto-in-a-bottle/545129/
Title: Re: Ketones as a booster drink
Post by: DrCool on November 07, 2017, 03:37:30 PM
Was reading about that yesterday. $99 for 3 bottles??? They are really limiting their market to elite athletes with that pricing. If it can help a competitive marathoner shave a minute or two off their time it could be worth it at that price. And that is a big if.

Title: Re: Ketones as a booster drink
Post by: littleman on November 07, 2017, 05:38:13 PM
So far, every time we've extracted what usually is consumed in small quantities naturally and given it to humans as a food source it has been bad for our health.  This will probably turn out to be a bad idea just like polyunsaturated fats, sugar and refined carbohydrates turned out to be.

Ketones are made by the body as needed, what unforeseen long term effects will happen when people start dumping them into their body when there is a surplus of glycogen?
Title: Re: Ketones as a booster drink
Post by: Travoli on November 07, 2017, 07:44:55 PM
>when people start dumping them into their body when there is a surplus of glycogen?
I agree. The article mentions taking ketones with carbs, but that it might signal the liver to stop releasing sugar. They need to find out, scientifically.
$99 is nothing to the silicon valley nootropics early-adopters. They'll eventually compete with 5 Hour Energy.
Title: Re: Ketones as a booster drink
Post by: rcjordan on November 07, 2017, 08:32:09 PM
>early-adopters

Right, look at the Soylent users. 
Title: Re: Ketones as a booster drink
Post by: ergophobe on November 07, 2017, 10:29:58 PM
Dom d'Agustino (not sure of the spelling), talks about this in a Tim Farris podcast Q&A (not interview). He's one of the main researchers on the topic (and has been studying, if I recall, things like benefits of ketosis for cancer patients).
Title: Re: Ketones as a booster drink
Post by: ergophobe on November 07, 2017, 10:32:58 PM
I haven't listened to this, but it would be the same guy
https://www.ketovangelist.com/episode-39-dr-dominic-dagostino-discusses-his-work-with-exogenous-ketones/

Proper spelling: Dominic D'Agostino
Title: Re: Ketones as a booster drink
Post by: littleman on November 07, 2017, 11:14:12 PM
It is my understanding that the benefits of ketosis when it comes to cancer is the absence of surplus glycogen/glucose.  Many cancer cells lose the ability to process alternative fuels and will basically starve and die.  I haven't seen anything that would indicate that just supplementing with ketones would do this. 

https://bottomlineinc.com/health/cancer-treatment/starve-cancer-to-death-with-the-ketogenic-diet