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Why We Are Here => Economics & Investing => Topic started by: littleman on February 09, 2018, 06:04:00 PM

Title: So, who's buying?
Post by: littleman on February 09, 2018, 06:04:00 PM
Or going to start soon?
Title: Re: So, who's buying?
Post by: Travoli on February 09, 2018, 07:25:25 PM
Stocks or crypto?
Title: Re: So, who's buying?
Post by: Mackin USA on February 09, 2018, 08:14:36 PM
#DEBT
Title: Re: So, who's buying?
Post by: littleman on February 09, 2018, 08:35:13 PM
I was thinking stocks.  We were sitting at about 50% cash, now we're looking at doing some buying.  Looking at some REITs & BDCs mostly.
Title: Re: So, who's buying?
Post by: rcjordan on February 09, 2018, 09:10:37 PM
>stocks

FWIW, feed headlines seem to say we're not at the bottom yet.
Title: Re: So, who's buying?
Post by: littleman on February 09, 2018, 09:17:16 PM
> bottom

Yeah, probably not yet.
Title: Re: So, who's buying?
Post by: Travoli on February 09, 2018, 11:20:04 PM
I like this page, which seems to be regularly updated.  https://www.advisorperspectives.com/dshort/updates/2018/02/02/is-the-stock-market-cheap

P/E10 Ratio = 33.5 (historic average is 16.8). Currently in 97th percentile. Currently sitting at a high deviation from the mean.

"Be fearful when others are greedy and greedy when others are fearful." - Warren Buffett

Summary: Based on valuations, I'm fearful. It'll probably go higher. You should be greedy.
Title: Re: So, who's buying?
Post by: rcjordan on February 09, 2018, 11:24:13 PM
>P/E10 Ratio = 33.5 (historic average is 16 )

I was just looking at some of the high-flyer P/E ratios earlier this week.  Holy crap! Back a couple of decades ago, I got fearful at 14.
Title: Re: So, who's buying?
Post by: rcjordan on February 12, 2018, 05:41:52 PM
Don't be fooled by the 'stocks are cheap now' argument. They're not

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/12/dont-be-fooled-by-the-stocks-are-cheap-now-argument-theyre-not.html
Title: Re: So, who's buying?
Post by: rcjordan on April 25, 2020, 08:35:29 PM
<mind the gap>

To Icahn, who at 84 has traded through all the stock-market crashes since the Great Depression, the future is just too unpredictable for the S&P 500 to be trading at 17 times 2021 earnings estimates.

He's hoarding cash, **shorting commercial real estate** and preparing for the coronavirus to wreak more havoc.



Icahn Says Stocks Are Overvalued, Virus May Cause 'Downdrafts'
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-25/icahn-says-stocks-are-overvalued-virus-may-cause-downdrafts
Title: Re: So, who's buying?
Post by: littleman on April 25, 2020, 09:47:57 PM
>shorting commercial real estate

Probably a safer bet these days.