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Title: Tesla pickup
Post by: rcjordan on November 23, 2019, 02:01:12 AM
Priced at $40k. Delivery 2021.  Ugly.
Title: Re: Tesla pickup
Post by: ergophobe on November 23, 2019, 04:49:30 AM
Real price or BS Tesla pricing where they subtract out projected savings over the life of the vehicle?
Title: Re: Tesla pickup
Post by: littleman on November 23, 2019, 06:58:32 AM
You think anybody will buy these?  That body style is a huge gamble.
Title: Re: Tesla pickup
Post by: Brad on November 23, 2019, 11:33:37 AM
Does it even have a bed and how big is it?
Title: Re: Tesla pickup
Post by: rcjordan on November 23, 2019, 01:34:39 PM
>bed

Yeah. Looks to be about the size of a short bed, or maybe a Ranger.
Title: Re: Tesla pickup
Post by: rcjordan on November 23, 2019, 02:51:49 PM
True!! worth a read
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Have you looked at new car designs lately? Half of them look like a Yeti cooler mated with a lamprey. Most car commercials now end with a shot of their "lineup," which is to say, eight crossovers distinguished only by how much their grilles are yawning. In 2017, construction crews in London removed a fatberg—"a 130-ton mass of sanitary products and cooking fat"—from the city's aging sewage system. A small amount of the fatberg was put on display in a museum, but the rest was secretly injected with human growth hormone and turned into the Infiniti QX80.

What I'm saying is, at least the Cybertruck looks different.

And while Musk has a habit of promising a lowest tier of prices that never actually arrive, the Cybertruck seems like it will be priced competitively: $39,000 to $69,000. That places it in the same approximate range as other pickup trucks, which are America's best-selling and most profitable vehicle segment.
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https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2019/11/whats-good-about-elon-cybertruck/602524/
Title: Re: Tesla pickup
Post by: ergophobe on November 24, 2019, 01:06:15 AM
I think it's ugly, but it has people talking and talking. Even people who *never* talk about cars.

And, at the low-end, it's actually Tesla's cheapest AWD vehicle. And with a cargo capacity of 3500 pounds, that makes it close to a one-ton truck. So it's a beefy vehicle.

And the high-end model, with a 500-mile range is pretty impressive. I suspect once the Musk Marketing Machine winds down, they will change the styling. It's sort of like the assault vehicle version of the Delorean - crazy styling, stainless steel body.
Title: Re: Tesla pickup
Post by: rcjordan on November 24, 2019, 01:40:30 AM
Tesla already has 146,000 deposits for its Cybertruck | Engadget
https://www.engadget.com/2019/11/23/tesla-146000-cybertruck-deposits/
Title: Re: Tesla pickup
Post by: Brad on November 24, 2019, 06:57:46 PM
7 features of Tesla's new pickup.
https://www.foxnews.com/auto/7-funky-features-teslas-cybertruck
Title: Re: Tesla pickup
Post by: Woz on November 25, 2019, 01:59:49 AM
>ugly

Perhaps they found a copy of RC's blockbuster book - "Ugly Sites Sell."
Title: Re: Tesla pickup
Post by: ergophobe on November 25, 2019, 02:51:41 AM
I think part of it is that a lot of the selling point for a pickup is that it's a MAN's truck and there's no better way to feel like a MAN than having a Cummins Diesel. If you have to go for gas, that's okay if you have a lot of self-confidence and aren't worried about testosterone levels.

But electric? Seriously? You're going to show up at the job site or the VFW in an ELECTRIC pickup. Dude, you might get your man license revoked.

But a monster, assault-style, pickup that carries almost TWO tons (I said almost one above - bad math) that puts that an F150 to shame and can go toe to toe with an F250, even a low-end F350. Now that's a man's truck.

I think that is driving the styling.
Title: Re: Tesla pickup
Post by: rcjordan on November 25, 2019, 11:18:24 PM
Pic shows it with an f150 for comparison.

https://electrek.co/2019/11/25/tesla-cybertruck-tug-war-against-ford-f150-size-comparison/


Those big tires are going to hurt your wallet when it is time for replacement.

<added>
Musk tweet: Tesla Cybertruck Just Crossed the 200K Pre-Orders Mark

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>tires

The debut model was sporting 35" tire$.
Title: Re: Tesla pickup
Post by: Brad on November 26, 2019, 12:42:27 PM
It looks bigger, and the current F150 is already massive.

>tires

Good thought those would be expensive.

Also collision insurance.  I'm sure my local body shop can deal with space age stainless steel.  Sure they can. Heh.
Title: Re: Tesla pickup
Post by: rcjordan on November 26, 2019, 01:35:15 PM
>collision insurance

That's already a problem for Tesla owners.  This will be worse.  If you opt for the AWD models, that automatically kicks you into the 'off-road use' pricing. That's really going to skyrocket your insurance costs.

Exterior panels need to be carbon fiber, kevlar, or a mix. 
Title: Re: Tesla pickup
Post by: rcjordan on November 26, 2019, 03:29:45 PM
<added>

UPDATE: Ford Accepts Tesla Towing Challenge: Asks For Cybertruck For Real Demo
https://insideevs.com/news/384376/ford-tesla-tow-challenge-f150-cybertruck/
Title: Re: Tesla pickup
Post by: buckworks on November 28, 2019, 12:09:00 AM
I had a small moment of glory in a small-town restaurant because of this thread.

I was the only woman in the morning coffee crowd, and a bunch of farmers were discussing the Tesla truck. There was an opening for me to casually mention that the 500 mile range was pretty impressive.

All the old geezers were surprised and impressed that I knew anything about it! :)
Title: Re: Tesla pickup
Post by: littleman on October 25, 2020, 06:19:14 AM
GM's response to the Tesla truck.

The Hummer EV
https://www.gmc.com/electric-truck/hummer-ev
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkM0L4_W_pM

An impressive yet opulent beast.
Title: Re: Tesla pickup
Post by: rcjordan on October 25, 2020, 01:06:40 PM
I have serious doubts that any of the old Big 3 will get the EV tech right.  They also have the dealership legacy dragging them down --and pumping up the price.
Title: Re: Tesla pickup
Post by: rcjordan on April 02, 2022, 12:39:20 AM
<warp>

CANCELED! Tesla Cybertruck Is Dead
https://carbuzz.com/news/canceled-tesla-cybertruck-is-dead
Title: Re: Tesla pickup
Post by: ergophobe on April 02, 2022, 05:34:48 PM
My gut tells me that the average pickup truck buyer wants a truck that looks like a truck. Especially if you have a job that requires a large truck, such as branch manager of a regional bank (https://worldhistory.medium.com/as-an-american-i-face-the-worst-possible-hardship-4-gas-785e8f075002).

When you layer on Tesla pricing, I think the market becomes small quickly.
Title: Re: Tesla pickup
Post by: Travoli on April 03, 2022, 07:06:59 PM
>CANCELED! Tesla Cybertruck Is Dead

Great viral 04/01 post! I wonder how many views that got.
Title: Re: Tesla pickup
Post by: littleman on April 03, 2022, 09:24:28 PM
>My gut tells me that the average pickup truck buyer wants a truck that looks like a truck.

https://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/f150-lightning/2022/

And to a lesser extent:
https://www.gmc.com/electric/hummer-ev
https://www.caranddriver.com/rivian/r1t

I bet the F150 Lighting will end up a big hit.
Title: Re: Tesla pickup
Post by: ergophobe on April 04, 2022, 02:29:51 AM
>> April Fool's

I wondered about that, but didn't bother to check. It's so hard to tell with Elon Musk. Everything sounds like April Fool's.