Kia's sleek new EV6 electric car

[rcjordan]

>> glitches

Yeah, on the firmware side I'd say Tesla has the advantage. That said, battery tech is advancing at a rapid pace and it is still a moving target.  I think it will be very easy to get a certified lemon that would indeed be a nightmare.  The problem will likely be worse for one-off, wannabe EVs that seem to be coming out of the woodwork lately.

>model year

Teslas have been called out over several models for having poor-fitting doors, cabin noise, etc. Musk readily admits that scaling up production has put many of the "finish quality" issues behind where they should be for an upscale vehicle.

[rcjordan]

^{meanwhile at the top dog...}

Tesla's quarterly deliveries smash previous record, beat estimates | Reuters
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-tesla-deliveries-idUSKBN2BP0WD

[rcjordan]

>Despite my "true L5" pessimism, I think "open road L5" and longer ranges are coming fairly soon.

"I am extremely confident of achieving full autonomy and releasing it to the Tesla customer base next year. But I think at least some jurisdictions are going to allow full self-driving next year."

Tesla CEO Elon Musk talks Level 5 Full Autonomy for 2021
https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-full-autonomy-2021/