Lithium Mining CEO: There Isn't Enough Lithium to Support Global EV Deadlines

[rcjordan]

https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/339339-mining-ceo-there-isnt-enough-lithium-to-support-global-ev-deadlines

[ergophobe]

I suspect new battery chemistry and hydrogen can't be fooled up nearly fast enough either?

Did you post here, or did I see elsewhere, an article saying that even with abundant lithium, the battery manufacturing facilities will not come online fast enough either?

[rcjordan]

elsewhere, I think.

Debbie is concerned that the US may end up with something like strip mining while we're in a lithium frenzy.

Also, only half-jokingly, we'll invade Bolivia.

[ergophobe]

Not sure where I saw it, but the basic idea is that we (the world) are not building capacity fast enough and part of the reason for that is that from the time a factory goes live until it reaches nameplate capacity can be two, even three, years. So al the projects recently announced by Volkswagen and Honda in the last couple months might not even reach capacity until nearly 2030.

[rcjordan]

>Volkswagen and Honda

...and Toyota. Spending billions in my state --luckily, it is a big state and the factories are not near me.

[rcjordan]

The Indispensable Industry: Mining's Role in the Energy Transition and the Americas

https://www.csis.org/analysis/indispensable-industry-minings-role-energy-transition-and-americas

[ergophobe]

Revealed: how US transition to electric cars threatens environmental havoc

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jan/24/us-electric-vehicles-lithium-consequences-research?CMP=oth_b-aplnews_d-1

[rcjordan]

Debbie says we're going to be living in the bottom of a quarry.

[ergophobe]

Like so many things, it is a race between human greed and human creativity

https://m.economictimes.com/industry/renewables/low-cost-sustainable-alternative-to-lithium-ion-batteries-found/amp_articleshow/93325123.cms

[rcjordan]

Debbie has posted this before; We won't do jack unless it is cheaper.

[rcjordan]

>won't do jack unless it is cheaper.

Meanwhile...

Report: N.C. coal plants more expensive to run than building new solar | Energy News Network

https://energynews.us/2023/01/30/report-duke-energys-n-c-coal-plants-more-expensive-to-run-than-building-new-solar-farms/

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US renewable energy farms outstrip 99% of coal plants economically – study | US news | The Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jan/30/us-coal-more-expensive-than-renewable-energy-study