Europe's record-high gas and electricity prices are a taste of what's in store

[rcjordan]

https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/commodities/europe-gas-electricity-price-surge-commodities-markets-shortages-goldman-sachs-2021-9

[ergophobe]

>>surging demand

So much for the Covid carbon downturn...

[rcjordan]

Parboiled! Parboiled, Debbie says.

[ukgimp]

Why are you not getting solar. Where you can of course.

[rcjordan]

>Why are you not getting solar

Me personally?
¹I don't like the look of the panels.
²I don't need another minimum wage job tending the system.
³I've never been satisfied with how to solve the future roof maintenance issues for the section under the mounted panels.

[rcjordan]

+

I haven't seen mention of them lately, but there are supplemental "plug-n-play" systems that do not use batteries. I'm still not happy with the look.

320-Watt Plug and Play Solar Panel Power; Simply Plug into Wall
https://pluggedsolar.com/expandable-320-watt-plug-and-play-solar-panel-power-simply-plug-into-wall-expandable-to-740watts-solar-panels/

[ergophobe]

>>Why are you not getting solar.

I did just get solar, though the location is not great and I suppose it remains to be seen what the effect on carbon footprint is.

>>I don't like the look of the panels

That will become an accepted norm and, probably, a luxury we can't really afford. In any case, I sort of like the look. More to the point, though, they are mostly very unobtrusive.

>>I don't need another minimum wage job tending the system.

. Our system is brand new, but there's almost no tending to do. If you live in a very dusty environment, that might be an issue.

>> roof maintenance issues

Mount them on a pole in the backyard. They don't have to go on the roof. But in general, I do not like any perforations to the roof. I thought about holding out for the solar shingles, but wanted to move forward. If I had the space, I'd do a pole mount.

On the other hand, it's effectively a sun shade on the roof with room to circulate underneath.

[rcjordan]

British energy firms fear collapse as European gas prices surge 250%
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/20/british-energy-firms-fear-collapse-as-european-gas-prices-surge-250percent.html

[BoL]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_uKi2JXEAMpHbd?format=jpg&name=large

[rcjordan]

Energy price cap to be reviewed as firms go bust - BBC News
https://www.bbc.com/news/business-59088216

[Rumbas]

We just hit $8,4 per gallon unleaded.

[rcjordan]

>$8,4 per gallon

Yeow!  You need to get a buddy in Norway to loan you a Tesla.

[Rumbas]

> loan you a Tesla

Well, electricity prices are also soaring. I need a wind mill and couple of Teslas.

[Brad]

I saw somewhere that petrol in Norway is $12 per gal.  Heck, I'd buy an EV too with all the incentives they get.

[rcjordan]

World urged to slash gas use by a third this decade to avoid climate disaster  | The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/nov/04/gas-new-coal-fossil-fuels-climate-disaster