Windows 11 w/ TPM requirements feels like the end of Windows as an open platform

Drastic · September 25, 2021, 01:43:02 PM

They failed to do it with software on win8. So, now, they've given everyone win10 basically for free, and the next iteration requires a hardware piece that they can use to finally build their walled garden.

This will take years to fully implement, and there's a good chance they'll botch it and have to back up and punt. Regardless, it seems like win10 is end of the line for me.

I can't believe I'm typing this out, but I've been shopping for a Macbook. It almost feels wrong. Almost.

Hell should be freezing over any minute now. Know any good tattoo removal services? hhh

rcjordan · September 25, 2021, 01:49:05 PM

> seems like win10 is end of the line for me.

Same.

Torben · September 25, 2021, 01:59:18 PM

I have been using Mac for almost 5 years now and newer looked back. For some time i ran af virtual windows 10 on the Mac for applications I couldn't get af Mac replacement for but that is history now.

buckworks · September 25, 2021, 03:08:09 PM

I've been a Mac user since 1989.

When I started teaching at Assiniboine College, I don't remember what their network was, MS-DOS something, but it made me wonder if I had died and gone to hell.

littleman · September 25, 2021, 10:07:39 PM

Linux anyone?

Sorry...

rcjordan · September 25, 2021, 10:47:51 PM

>linux

I'm considering it. Since I'm now primarily browser-based, about the only Win OS software that I need is Quickbooks for my accounting.

Are you running anything on Wine/Ubuntu by any chance?

littleman · September 25, 2021, 11:43:34 PM

No personal experience, but it looks like it's possible.

ergophobe · September 26, 2021, 12:35:38 AM

Quote from: littleman on September 25, 2021, 10:07:39 PM
Linux anyone?

Baby steps. Seriously considered it for my new computer and looked hard at the MacBook too. Ultimately, I found hardware I liked a lot and it came with Win10, so I'm using it, but trying to wean myself from apps that do not have Linux equivalents. So I ditched MS Office for Libre Office (so far, quite adequate). I ditched Photoshop and Illustrator for GIMP (functional, but a bit cumbersome, perhaps because I'm not used to it), Inkscape (haven't used it enough).

I think the last apps that I really like a lot have Linux equivalents, but not quite as easy to use on Linux.

- PowerGREP
- Beyond Compare

I use them less and less, but when I use them, they are just so powerful and easy - yes, I've been dumbed down ;-) - compared to piping a bunch of stuff to through sed/grep and dumping to files.

- InDesign. I downloaded an open source layout tool, but it's far far from InDesign. I laid out and self-published a small book this year and while InDesign was a total PITA, it does offer great functionality that the simpler tools like Vellum (Mac only) just don't in terms of fundamental things like kerning control and laying out to a baseline. Scribus is the Linux option. I need to play with it. The main issue is the ID files are totally proprietary so for the legacy files, if I ever want to work with them, I would need ID. But I think the solution there would be simply to keep my old laptop for a few years and fire it up on the rare occasions where I want to update an existing book.

- Acrobat. I can't find a good replacement for Adobe Acrobat Pro (with the ability to combine files into a PDF, annotate, edit and so forth). This is something I still use quite a bit, especially when I'm teaching. Though I'm not sure how much more of that I'll do.

- Camtasia. Another one I might go six months without using, but then, for example, during the recent course I taught, I would make 4-6 video a week for the students. Things like cursor highlighting, editing sound levels and things like that.

There might be a couple more, but those are the apps that I would miss that come to mind right away.

littleman · September 26, 2021, 01:20:12 AM

Looks like PowerGREP runs on wine.

There are some alternative to Beyond Compare that you might want to look at.

rcjordan · September 26, 2021, 01:36:05 AM

LM, do you use GnuCash by any chance?

littleman · September 26, 2021, 01:42:54 AM

No, not really. I've been watching it's development from a far, and have booted it up a few times but I never really have used it.

littleman · September 26, 2021, 01:53:23 AM

There is also this: https://skrooge.org/

Brad · September 26, 2021, 11:25:03 AM

Interesting discussion. I've been fairly content with Win 10, but if MS is going all walled garden with Win 11, well that's why I quit Mac. I might have to go back to Linux when this Win 10 laptop eventually gets weird.

Drastic · September 26, 2021, 02:44:08 PM

>linux

If it were just me, sure. Not really a viable option for office staff. I may run it on my home workstation. Home theater pc will be an issue for gaming.

Just looked up Win10's expiration date. Sunsetting in October 2025, so we've got 4 years.

ergophobe · September 26, 2021, 05:38:51 PM

>Acrobat Pro

PDFStudio is a one-time license (no subscription), allows installation on two machines with different OSes (so perfect for my gradual weaning - can start with it on Windows) and gets a good review from this guy:

So Camtasia is the only thing I know I use regularly that doesn't have a decent alternative.

I have not really tried installing all that much in the Windows Subsystem for Linux, but I do have a full version of Ubuntu running. Mostly I just use it for mosh.

As perverse as it sounds, though, apparently you can install WINE in WSL. At that point, you have Windows, running the WSL compatibility layer, running Ubuntu, running WINE, running, say, PowerGREP. What could go wrong?

https://reddragdiva.dreamwidth.org/607714.html

I love that the instructions are titled "How to do this dumb thing."