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Started by rcjordan, November 23, 2021, 03:28:54 PM

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rcjordan


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QuoteFord sold 96,000 electric cars in 2022... Any legacy auto company that is selling less than 1 million cars per year is likely not profitable.

I would guess Ford has no expectation of making money at that volume. There is so much capital investment to spread out over 96,000 cars.

>>83% each year

96,000 * 1.83^4 =  1,076,653

If they can do 83% increase per year, they are at that 1 million cars in four years. Though, I suspect they 83% is not based on expected growth, but on back-calculating from the target 1,000,000. So we'll need to check in a year from now.

Brad

A Rivian buyer got his dream car after a 3-year wait. Days later, the car was dead and he faced a $2,100 bill.

https://news.yahoo.com/rivian-buyer-got-dream-car-111500636.html

ergophobe

"There's nuance to that ownership experience that we have to make sure that they understand," Caravano said.

This sounds like what you hear on Linux forums.

rcjordan

legacy auto company =  auto company with massive baggage.  Rust belt factories, unions out the ying-yang, pensions, layer upon layer of bureaucratic fiefdoms.

Notice where many of the new ev manufacturers are locating. Red, right-to-work states with plenty of blue collar workers.  South Carolina is bursting at the seams with auto manufacturers. North Carolina, Georgia, Texas.  Rivian -who is in trouble- opted to open in Normal, IL in a vacant plant. Probably a mistake.

Ford's new Tennessee plant aims to build 500,000 electric trucks a year | Reuters

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/fords-new-tennessee-plant-aims-build-500000-electric-trucks-year-2023-03-24/

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rcjordan

IIRC, Polestar is a clone of Volvo.  But Volvo has said "No subscriptions."  We'll see if that holds true.

rcjordan

wrong direction....

The F-150 Lightning now starts at $20K more than when it was announced - The Verge

https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/30/23663618/ford-f-150-lightning-price-hike-original-price

rcjordan

California to Require Half of All Heavy Trucks Sold by 2035 to Be Electric - The New York Times

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/31/climate/california-electric-trucks-emissions.html

rcjordan

GM is cutting off access to Apple CarPlay and Android Auto for its future EVs - The Verge

https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/31/23664814/gm-ev-restrict-apple-carplay-android-auto-google


"GM emphasized that the decision was primarily motivated by improving the navigation and charging experience for future EV owners.

...It could also help inform future subscription products."


Nope, nope, nope.

ergophobe

Experts fear deteriorating parking lots could collapse under the weight of heavy electric vehicles, says report
https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/experts-fear-deteriorating-parking-lots-could-collapse-under-the-weight-of-heavy-electric-vehicles-says-report/ar-AA19E8Bb

I'm not referring to this article, but I do get the feeling that there are a growing number of anti-EV articles and that the funding behind these is from groups that stand to lose money in the transition to EVs. More and more of them have a "press release" feel to them.

rcjordan

>growing number of anti-EV articles and that the funding behind these is from groups that stand to lose money in the transition to EVs

I've felt the same regarding solar & wind turbines.


IIRC, the anti-electricity campaign was funded by coal dealers.

Once Upon a Time, There was an Anti-Electricity Movement

https://old.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/11vdtbz/once_upon_a_time_there_was_an_antielectricity/