FF: Ver128 update has auto checked a new little privacy breach setting

[rcjordan]

https://mastodon.social/@mcc/112775362045378963

mcc: "So this, from Firefox, is fucking toxic" - Mastodon

https://mstdn.social/@Lokjo/112772496939724214

Lokjo - EU's Gmaps replacement: "Firefox is just another US-corporate product with an 'open source' sticker on it." - Mastodon 🐘

Brad, have you reviewed librewolf?

[Brad]

>Brad, have you reviewed librewolf?

No and I want to.  For some reason Ubuntu now only seems to install Flatpack/slippacks whatever it is called so I can't just download a Debian package and install the way I've done for years.  Not happy.

I have tried Waterfox (which the creator has back under his control) and it was pretty good.

[ergophobe]

How much revenue would a browser builder need from paid subscriptions to equal the revenue they get from ad networks, directly or indirectly?

[ergophobe]

i.e. - it always comes down to that doesn't it? Free with ads or free with data sales is the expected model and people hate the idea of anything other than free.

Half the stuff I use is free, because the flip side is....
https://th3core.com/talk/monetization/how-subscriptions-took-over-our-lives

Every individual free service I use feels worth $10/month, but the aggregate $200/mo seems outlandish for what I would be getting. And thus, browsers in the thrall of ad networks.

[rcjordan]

> free with data sales

Don't forget 'subscription with data sales.'  I'm now seeing some howls from users about that model.

[Brad]

Remember, way back when, before the first Internet bubble crashed, Opera browser had a free version with graphical banners?  They made their money from those banners and some affiliate links.  (This was before Opera was sold to some Chinese company.)

There was lots of silly money in ads before the crash and I don't think ad supported browsers would pay enough today especially if the ads were controlled by Google.

Vivaldi browser, is the successor to the old Opera today and they still earn income from affiliate links with all those bookmarks pre loaded.  I don't think they are getting rich but it keeps development going.

[rcjordan]

https://stackdiary.com/firefox-under-fire-for-enabling-privacy-protecting-ad-measurements/

Firefox under fire for enabling 'privacy-protecting ad measurements'